Re: SECURS Assembly

Federation of Antanares Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:10 pm

We support the proposal.

New Tarajan Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:54 pm

Due to the recent attack by Regornia to the Nosur Canal, belonging to two Member States of this Organization, New Tarajan asks to the Assembly to approve a formal condemnation of Regornia, classifying it as a "Threat State", as provided for in the Charter, and eventually preparing the plans for a military action in collaboration with the SOWESO.

Great Eurussia Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:26 pm

New Tarajan wrote:Due to the recent attack by Regornia to the Nosur Canal, belonging to two Member States of this Organization, New Tarajan asks to the Assembly to approve a formal condemnation of Regornia, classifying it as a "Threat State", as provided for in the Charter, and eventually preparing the plans for a military action in collaboration with the SOWESO.

Eurussia is in favor. We also suggest we now seek for WA Council clearance so we could not be questioned on issues of violation of sovereignty. The same thing as the WAAF & WAHO Aid.

New Tarajan Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:03 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:Due to the recent attack by Regornia to the Nosur Canal, belonging to two Member States of this Organization, New Tarajan asks to the Assembly to approve a formal condemnation of Regornia, classifying it as a "Threat State", as provided for in the Charter, and eventually preparing the plans for a military action in collaboration with the SOWESO.

Eurussia is in favor. We also suggest we now seek for WA Council clearance so we could not be questioned on issues of violation of sovereignty. The same thing as the WAAF & WAHO Aid.

I agree. I'll personally ask, as Secretary General of both SECURS and SOWESO, to the Council to support our intervention, especially now that Texania is launching its own one.

Atletius Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:18 pm

It is with regret that Atletius now supports military intervention by SECURS and SOWESO.
The Atletian Army, Royal Navy and Airforce will support our fellow SECURS and SOWESO nations.

Aloia Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:27 pm

Aloia supports an intervention by SECURS and SOWESO and we will make the Royal Armada, Royal Air Force, and Royal Armed Forces available to the effort. We will also support it in the WA Council.

Great Eurussia Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:56 am

Eurussia is glad that our efforts against Regornia are supported as well by our fellow SECURS Members to maintain stability in Mnemosyne. Nevertheless, we have forwarded an authorization proposal to have a military intervention in Regornia to the WA Council. Our organization can provide support to the WAAF.

https://worldalliance.forumotion.co.uk/t444-pending-regornia-military-intervention#16105

New Tarajan Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:45 pm

OOC: Damn Eurussia....wait for a moment!! I was going to propose it!

New Tarajan Thu May 01, 2014 8:01 pm

To all Members, as Secretary General I wish to ask to you to support the WAAF operation in Ceveztria, which has been duly authorized by the Council.
Thank you!

Great Eurussia Thu May 01, 2014 8:41 pm

New Tarajan wrote:To all Members, as Secretary General I wish to ask to you to support the WAAF operation in Ceveztria, which has been duly authorized by the Council.
Thank you!

Eurussia, as a member state, rejects any moves to drag SECURS into concerns outside its areas of concerns. Thank you.

New Tarajan Thu May 01, 2014 9:44 pm

Eurussia, the Statute of this organization is clear:

V. To conduct with all their forces the fight against totalitarianism in all its forms, as the only way to save mankind;

ll Member States agree to contribute with all necessary efforts to the fight against totalitarianism.
After a previous resolution of the Assembly, if necessary, they could declare war against so called "Threat States", or financing and support rebels movements inside them.

The Statute specifically provides for such intervention.
Consequently, your objection is rejected.

Great Eurussia Thu May 01, 2014 9:50 pm

New Tarajan wrote:Eurussia, the Statute of this organization is clear:

V. To conduct with all their forces the fight against totalitarianism in all its forms, as the only way to save mankind;

ll Member States agree to contribute with all necessary efforts to the fight against totalitarianism.
After a previous resolution of the Assembly, if necessary, they could declare war against so called "Threat States", or financing and support rebels movements inside them.

The Statute specifically provides for such intervention.
Consequently, your objection is rejected.

May we ask where is this SECURS Assembly Resolution dragging the organization to a conflict beyond its member states?

New Tarajan Thu May 01, 2014 10:08 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:Eurussia, the Statute of this organization is clear:

V. To conduct with all their forces the fight against totalitarianism in all its forms, as the only way to save mankind;

ll Member States agree to contribute with all necessary efforts to the fight against totalitarianism.
After a previous resolution of the Assembly, if necessary, they could declare war against so called "Threat States", or financing and support rebels movements inside them.

The Statute specifically provides for such intervention.
Consequently, your objection is rejected.

May we ask where is this SECURS Assembly Resolution dragging the organization to a conflict beyond its member states?

The SECURS is specifically designed to protect our ideals EVERYWHERE, first of all.
Secondly, we do not ask to Member States to declare war against Ceveztria, thus the resolution is not necessary. We are asking for Member States to cooperate with the WAAF, diplomatically or militarily, following our own Statute.
I don't see anything wrong with this, sorry.

Great Eurussia Thu May 01, 2014 10:21 pm

New Tarajan wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:Eurussia, the Statute of this organization is clear:

V. To conduct with all their forces the fight against totalitarianism in all its forms, as the only way to save mankind;

ll Member States agree to contribute with all necessary efforts to the fight against totalitarianism.
After a previous resolution of the Assembly, if necessary, they could declare war against so called "Threat States", or financing and support rebels movements inside them.

The Statute specifically provides for such intervention.
Consequently, your objection is rejected.

May we ask where is this SECURS Assembly Resolution dragging the organization to a conflict beyond its member states?

The SECURS is specifically designed to protect our ideals EVERYWHERE, first of all.
Secondly, we do not ask to Member States to declare war against Ceveztria, thus the resolution is not necessary. We are asking for Member States to cooperate with the WAAF, diplomatically or militarily, following our own Statute.
I don't see anything wrong with this, sorry.

Eurussia believes that the request for support must be done outside the SECURS.

Federation of Antanares Fri May 02, 2014 2:46 am

I don't think is necessary do this request outside of the SECURS's Assembly. It's a simple request to participate to an international mission and support the ideals of this organisation.

Great Eurussia Fri May 02, 2014 3:17 am

Federation of Antanares wrote:I don't think is necessary do this request outside of the SECURS's Assembly. It's a simple request to participate to an international mission and support the ideals of this organisation.

Again, Eurussia believes that SECURS has no concerns with Ceveztria and if it has indeed something to do the WAAF, then the WAAF Thread is wide open for any plea. Thank you.

New Tarajan Fri May 02, 2014 4:07 am

Great Eurussia wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:I don't think is necessary do this request outside of the SECURS's Assembly. It's a simple request to participate to an international mission and support the ideals of this organisation.

Again, Eurussia believes that SECURS has no concerns with Ceveztria and if it has indeed something to do the WAAF, then the WAAF Thread is wide open for any plea. Thank you.

Your objection is noted.
The call will remain.
Thank you.

Great Eurussia Fri May 02, 2014 12:50 pm

New Tarajan wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:I don't think is necessary do this request outside of the SECURS's Assembly. It's a simple request to participate to an international mission and support the ideals of this organisation.

Again, Eurussia believes that SECURS has no concerns with Ceveztria and if it has indeed something to do the WAAF, then the WAAF Thread is wide open for any plea. Thank you.

Your objection is noted.
The call will remain.
Thank you.

Again, Eurussia, as a member of the organization, invokes our rights to be heard and consulted, most especially when the leadership have failed to justify its acts of dragging the SECURS to non-SECURS matters.

For a fact that neither Ceveztria, Europa, nor Eurasia are members of the SECURS nor have vested interests in our organization. Much more didn't even seeked for the help of the SECURS for non-SECURS matters.

New Tarajan Sat May 03, 2014 2:16 am

The Secretary General has all the rights to take a personal, individual action (such as a call to Member States for cooperation).
There's nothing else to add. Everyone will take his own conclusions, acting consequently.
Thank you.

Great Eurussia Sat May 03, 2014 12:04 pm

New Tarajan wrote:The Secretary General has all the rights to take a personal, individual action (such as a call to Member States for cooperation).
There's nothing else to add. Everyone will take his own conclusions, acting consequently.
Thank you.

Eveb if such acts are inconsistent with the principles and common understanding of the SECURS itself?

New Tarajan Sat May 17, 2014 7:50 pm

I personally drafted the Statute. I know very well what is consistent or not with the SECURS principles and goals (so said, sorry for the late response).

The Government of New Tarajan, in accordance to the word of Article 1, officially propose, in front of this Assembly, a meeting with the Eurussian Government in order to resolve our disputes and ease tensions between our two countries to be held in the SECURS HQ of Merlberg.
We wish to state that this decision has been taken also in accordance to the word of the Premable, and the Article 9, Section I of the SOWESO Charter.
We hope that such a move, as a demonstration of willigness to cooperate and restore friendship between our countries after this brief wave of new tensions, will be successful.
Thank you.

Great Eurussia Sat May 17, 2014 8:16 pm

New Tarajan wrote:I personally drafted the Statute. I know very well what is consistent or not with the SECURS principles and goals (so said, sorry for the late response).

The Government of New Tarajan, in accordance to the word of Article 1, officially propose, in front of this Assembly, a meeting with the Eurussian Government in order to resolve our disputes and ease tensions between our two countries to be held in the SECURS HQ of Merlberg.
We wish to state that this decision has been taken also in accordance to the word of the Premable, and the Article 9, Section I of the SOWESO Charter.
We hope that such a move, as a demonstration of willigness to cooperate and restore friendship between our countries after this brief wave of new tensions, will be successful.
Thank you.

Eurussia requires a public apology from the Kingdom of New Tarajan for all the lies and insults its King, Prime Minister, and Government have thrown against us, that were all remained unproven up to this day. If such are not met, the Eurussian Government is not interested to hold talks with New Tarajan.

However, to show our openness on this request, we will continue to uphold our Joint Declaration of Friendship that were negotiated by Tarajani Government before, when our relations are still in a good standing.

New Tarajan Sat May 17, 2014 10:17 pm

We will accept to deliver apologies when the Eurussian government will deliver its own apologies for the words used against our Government, which we took terribly seriously.
Since we kept our line most diplomatically as possible during this entire crisis, we believe this to be at least appropriate. And, indeed, everybody could check the words of our Prime Minister: we did not define Eurussia in any offensive term, while they accused us of being "opportunistic", a serious insult for us.

But, for the sake of peace, we do not want to be so childish: we can leave the entire issue of the apologies behind us and go ahead for the sake of peace and friendship. We are sure that, doing so, we will do a great service to both our countries, and to the entire Region.

Great Eurussia Sun May 18, 2014 5:11 am

New Tarajan wrote:We will accept to deliver apologies when the Eurussian government will deliver its own apologies for the words used against our Government, which we took terribly seriously.
Since we kept our line most diplomatically as possible during this entire crisis, we believe this to be at least appropriate. And, indeed, everybody could check the words of our Prime Minister: we did not define Eurussia in any offensive term, while they accused us of being "opportunistic", a serious insult for us.

But, for the sake of peace, we do not want to be so childish: we can leave the entire issue of the apologies behind us and go ahead for the sake of peace and friendship. We are sure that, doing so, we will do a great service to both our countries, and to the entire Region.

There is no reason, at all, for Eurussia to issue an apology and that will never happen as we are very sure that we only reciprocated how we have been treated by the Tarajani Government. If the latter is really serious in rebuilding ties and trust, it should not demand anything impossible to happen and find ways to mend ties.

New Tarajan Sun May 18, 2014 9:42 am

Great Eurussia wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:We will accept to deliver apologies when the Eurussian government will deliver its own apologies for the words used against our Government, which we took terribly seriously.
Since we kept our line most diplomatically as possible during this entire crisis, we believe this to be at least appropriate. And, indeed, everybody could check the words of our Prime Minister: we did not define Eurussia in any offensive term, while they accused us of being "opportunistic", a serious insult for us.

But, for the sake of peace, we do not want to be so childish: we can leave the entire issue of the apologies behind us and go ahead for the sake of peace and friendship. We are sure that, doing so, we will do a great service to both our countries, and to the entire Region.

There is no reason, at all, for Eurussia to issue an apology and that will never happen as we are very sure that we only reciprocated how we have been treated by the Tarajani Government. If the latter is really serious in rebuilding ties and trust, it should not demand anything impossible to happen and find ways to mend ties.

So, differently from us, are you still claiming such a kind of apologies?
We offered to you our hand in peace for many, many times. Now we have choosen an international forum to do so too, in accordance with the Statute of this Organization.
Our willingness to come to a peaceful solution is in front of the eyes of everybody.

As we said, we are not willing to loose an occasion for peace keeping unuseful claims for apologies. We are ready to leave behind us the entire issue, and to re-build our relations, in the name of peace and friendship.
It's up to Eurussia, now, to choose.

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