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Post  Aloia Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:07 am

Aloia, as one of the largest nations in the continent, would also like to take part in the exercises. The HMS Ticonderoga, HMS Nishnabotna, and HMS Tuscarora, Aloia's three aircraft carriers, will play a large role in the exercises.
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Post  Federation of Antanares Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:20 am

We can add the aloian's ship in the next news to the air-naval exercise.
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Post  New Tarajan Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:32 am

As Founder of this organization, I wish to deeply thank all of you for your participation in this first joint exercises.
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Post  New Tarajan Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:38 pm

The Federal Aristocratic Kingdom of New Tarajan

Acknolwedging the last provocation from the Empire of Great Eurussia, namely the visit of Chancellor Putin in Orenburg, which was more than unwise due to our tensions in the area, and the declaration of the presence in the island of 1.000.000 troop, 5 nuclear carrier and 9 nuclear-powered submarines, a contingent simply unjustifiable with geopolitcal dangers or other strategic reasons except that a direct threat to the security of the Kingdom of New Tarajan, due to the fact nobody was informed about it;

Reminding that the Empire of Great Eurussia deliberately fabricated claims against the Royal Tarajani Navy to blacken our international reputation and that they constantly refused to make public apologies nor to negotiate with us to peacefully settle our disputes;

Stating that all these behaviors are completely against the spirit of the SOWESO Charter, since they deepened the spirit of mistrust between our countries, and forced our Kingdom to take serious measures to protect its own security;

Hereby, asks to the SOWESO Council to suspend the Empire of Great Eurussia from this Organization, in force of the provisions of Article 16 of the SOWESO Charter;
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Post  Great Eurussia Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:47 pm

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Acknolwedging the last provocation from the Empire of Great Eurussia, namely the visit of Chancellor Putin in Orenburg, which was more than unwise due to our tensions in the area, and the declaration of the presence in the island of 1.000.000 troop, 5 nuclear carrier and 9 nuclear-powered submarines, a contingent simply unjustifiable with geopolitcal dangers or other strategic reasons except that a direct threat to the security of the Kingdom of New Tarajan, due to the fact nobody was informed about it;

Reminding that the Empire of Great Eurussia deliberately fabricated claims against the Royal Tarajani Navy to blacken our international reputation and that they constantly refused to make public apologies nor to negotiate with us to peacefully settle our disputes;

Stating that all these behaviors are completely against the spirit of the SOWESO Charter, since they deepened the spirit of mistrust between our countries, and forced our Kingdom to take serious measures to protect its own security;

Hereby, asks to the SOWESO Council to suspend the Empire of Great Eurussia from this Organization, in force of the provisions of Article 16 of the SOWESO Charter;
Eurussia is willing to accept any suspension from this organization provided that an acceptable justification is presented by the complainant and all members. 
However, Eurussia, as a responsible member, with which we believe will be supported by all other members of this honourable organization, believes that New Tarajan MUST WAIT FOR THE COURT VERDICT for us all to SEE. Furthermore, we believe we have not violated any provision of the SOWESO Treaty to be suspended.
From then on, we could easily decide on this request of suspension, that if we were found guilty by the WA Court of Justice, we will gladly honour this suspension, much more we will honourably withdraw from SOWESO.
Thank you.
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Post  New Tarajan Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:53 pm

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Acknolwedging the last provocation from the Empire of Great Eurussia, namely the visit of Chancellor Putin in Orenburg, which was more than unwise due to our tensions in the area, and the declaration of the presence in the island of 1.000.000 troop, 5 nuclear carrier and 9 nuclear-powered submarines, a contingent simply unjustifiable with geopolitcal dangers or other strategic reasons except that a direct threat to the security of the Kingdom of New Tarajan, due to the fact nobody was informed about it;

Reminding that the Empire of Great Eurussia deliberately fabricated claims against the Royal Tarajani Navy to blacken our international reputation and that they constantly refused to make public apologies nor to negotiate with us to peacefully settle our disputes;

Stating that all these behaviors are completely against the spirit of the SOWESO Charter, since they deepened the spirit of mistrust between our countries, and forced our Kingdom to take serious measures to protect its own security;

Hereby, asks to the SOWESO Council to suspend the Empire of Great Eurussia from this Organization, in force of the provisions of Article 16 of the SOWESO Charter;
Eurussia is willing to accept any suspension from this organization provided that an acceptable justification is presented by the complainant and all members. 
However, Eurussia, as a responsible member, with which we believe will be supported by all other members of this honourable organization, believes that New Tarajan MUST WAIT FOR THE COURT VERDICT for us all to SEE.
Furthermore, Eurussia believes thay we have not violated any provision of the Treaty of the South Western Security Organization.
From then on, we could easily decide on this request of suspension, that if we were found guilty by the WA Court of Justice, we will gladly honour this suspension, much more we will honourably withdraw from SOWESO.
Thank you.

Nobody is requiring here a withdrawal of Eurussia from the SOWESO, which is, in our opinion, not in the interests of no Member State, New Tarajan first of all.
However, a violation of the Treaty is not under the jurisdiction of the Court of Justice, and the facts are facts. Indeed, the verdict of the Court cannot influence the fact that Eurussia effectively violated the Treaty with the deployment of such huge amounts of military forces without informing the allies.
For this reason, we cannot link this vote with the verdict of the CoJ.
By the way, to demonstrate our willingness to cooperate and our good faith, we accept the Eurussian proposal.
The motion is in stand-by until the CoJ will not pronounce its verdict.
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Post  New Tarajan Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:23 am

Since the final verdict has been issued, but the Court refused to take into account the violation of the SOWESO Treaty from Eurussia, this motion is again active.
We ask for the immediate suspension of Eurussia from the Treaty, as we already stated, for the reasons we already expressed.

And, before the Eurussian delegate will say that this motion is void since the Court found us guilty, we answer preemptively: since the Court did not take into account that part of our defense, and it refused to express an opinion about your behaviors which lead to this mess, the Court verdict has no influence over this motion.
We submit the decision to the Assembly.
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Post  Great Eurussia Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:59 am


Since the final verdict has been issued, but the Court refused to take into account the violation of the SOWESO Treaty from Eurussia, this motion is again active.
We ask for the immediate suspension of Eurussia from the Treaty, as we already stated, for the reasons we already expressed.

And, before the Eurussian delegate will say that this motion is void since the Court found us guilty, we answer preemptively: since the Court did not take into account that part of our defense, and it refused to express an opinion about your behaviors which lead to this mess, the Court verdict has no influence over this motion.
We submit the decision to the Assembly.

Eurussia, as a responsible member of the SOWESO, would like to inquire the honourable New Tarajan the grounds and acts that could justify our nation's expulsion from the South Western Security Organization.
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Post  New Tarajan Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:35 pm

Of course.
We have already underlined, both in this Assembly and in front of the Court, that Eurussia, no informing us of the passage of nuclear submarines in International Waters adjacent to our territorial ones, without giving any explanation after the accident, trying to vilify our fleet without any apology, with the attempt to hide military informations on Orenburg during the escalation of the crisis only to reveal a huge, unjustified deployment of forces, of which the SOWESO was not informed, has violated the spirit and the goal of this Treaty.
Particularly the last two points create the need for a suspension.

We would like to point out that it is a two-months, thus non permanent, suspension.
The Kingdom of New Tarajan is also willing to withdraw the motion, after Eurussia will provide public apologies for the incident, thus demonstrating its willingness to cooperate in the future, in the spirit of this Treaty.
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Post  Great Eurussia Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:07 pm

We have already underlined, both in this Assembly and in front of the Court, that Eurussia, no informing us of the passage of nuclear submarines in International Waters adjacent to our territorial ones, without giving any explanation after the accident, trying to vilify our fleet without any apology, with the attempt to hide military informations on Orenburg during the escalation of the crisis only to reveal a huge, unjustified deployment of forces, of which the SOWESO was not informed, has violated the spirit and the goal of this Treaty.
Particularly the last two points create the need for a suspension.

We would like to point out that it is a two-months, thus non permanent, suspension.
The Kingdom of New Tarajan is also willing to withdraw the motion, after Eurussia will provide public apologies for the incident, thus demonstrating its willingness to cooperate in the future, in the spirit of this Treaty.

Eurussia, as a responsible member of the SOWESO, have stated before that in the Case: Eurussia vs New Tarajan, that if we were found guilty of anything, our nation will withdraw from this organization, however, it is New Tarajan who was found guilty of violating our sovereignty and was even ordered by the WA Court of Justice to pay Eurussia of 100 billion euros in compensation and the Court of 25 billion dollars in fines due to disruption of peace in the world and international arena.
As far as we are concern, we are DEEPLY TROUBLED on why did the CONVICTED NEW TARAJAN is the one asking for our suspension, asking for apology, when the tribunal itself have decided the other way around? Furthermore, Eurussia believes that ALL the issues being raised by the CONVICTED NEW TARAJAN has already VINDICATED EURUSSIA of everything. Moreover, there is no complaint that our nation did violated any provision of the SOWESO Treaty. Nevertheless, we believe Eurussia is innocent from all these complaints and our refusal to use force when New Tarajan violated our sovereignty, as affirmed by Court, is the clear sign that Eurussia is committed to the spirit of peace and unity in Mnemosyne.
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Post  New Tarajan Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:39 pm

Are you denying what the Court already recognized, namely that the Royal Navy was not chargeable of anything about the submarine accident, thus rendering your statements against the Royal Navy an act of diffamatio? This has nothing to do with the verdict so do not hide yourself behind this excuse. Eurussia committed a mistake. We are paying for our one, and now Eurussia will pay for its own. We do not want to be forced to summon the CoJ also for this issue. We can resolve it now, peacefully, even cordially, finally marking the word end over this issue and looking forward.
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Post  Great Eurussia Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:23 pm

Are you denying what the Court already recognized, namely that the Royal Navy was not chargeable of anything about the submarine accident, thus rendering your statements against the Royal Navy an act of diffamatio? This has nothing to do with the verdict so do not hide yourself behind this excuse. Eurussia committed a mistake. We are paying for our one, and now Eurussia will pay for its own. We do not want to be forced to summon the CoJ also for this issue. We can resolve it now, peacefully, even cordially, finally marking the word end over this issue and looking forward.

Eurussia simply believes that New Tarajan is being INCONSISTENT on citing the grounds for its complaints of asking for our suspension and we reiterate our belief that all issues related to the CONVICTED NEW TARAJAN has been resolved by the Court of Justice. 
Nevertheless, it has been VERY OBVIOUS that it is not Eurussia who is disrupting peace but the CONVICTED NEW TARAJAN, as affirmed by the court and was even fined that simply translates this move to suspend us is uncalled for. We just advice New Tarajan to move on from the case and work towards the development of peace and not persistently REVENGE on us with issues that has been already resolved by an independent tribunal.
Thank you very much.
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Post  New Tarajan Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:55 pm

The Assembly will decide.

We wish to remind the charges:
-attempt to vilify the Royal Navy;
-deployment of 1 million soldiers 5 nuclear carriers, 9 nuclear submarines, a potential strategic threat for everyone, without informing this Council;
-deliberate decision to ignore the Tarajani requests, thus leading us to commit such a dusgraceful mistake as the blockade on Orenburg;

That's all.
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Post  Great Eurussia Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:17 pm


We wish to remind the charges:
-attempt to vilify the Royal Navy;
-deployment of 1 million soldiers 5 nuclear carriers, 9 nuclear submarines, a potential strategic threat for everyone, without informing this Council;
-deliberate decision to ignore the Tarajani requests, thus leading us to commit such a dusgraceful mistake as the blockade on Orenburg;

That's all.


Then, Eurussia presents its position based on FACTS.
1) Simply baseless as affirmed by Court of Justice because this has been rejected by tribunal resulting to not ordering Eurussia to compensate New Tarajan of anything at all, even an apology since we did no wrong.
2) Simply a baseless threat as affirmed by Court of Justice knowing that our nuclear aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines are just refueling including the presence of troops in our own territory as it is a sovereign right. Also, Eurussia believes that it is not obliged to disclose its military routines (as usual a confidential information) as there is no resolution in SOWESO obliging all members and if there is, it will be a violation of sovereignty. Furthermore, if this is the case, all member states who have patrolled near the Duchy of Orenburg (as they say as routine patrols) would be violative of this disclosure as we have never seen anything that a member state have disclosed anything. Moreover, does this mean that all member states in Mnemosyne would have to always disclose their military activities before this Council? Nevertheless, obviously a threat not at all.
3) Simply not Eurussia's fault as also affirmed by the Court of Justice since it has even found New Tarajan guilty of violating our own sovereignty.
Hence, Eurussia have said enough and obviously all issues here have been raised and answered and even properly intervened and judged in the Court of Justice making all of these baseless now. 
But if New Tarajan will pursue this REVENGE MOTION to suspend us for OBVIOUSLY BASELESS GROUNDS, our government will simply move for Eurussia's withdrawal from SOWESO due to HARASSMENT. Thank you.
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Post  New Tarajan Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:22 pm

Plese, do not insult the intelligence of this Council.
Your three points provide no real defense.

1) The Court did not pronounce a verdict specifically regarding the issue. So, simply, it avoided to take it into account. However, it clearly recognized that we were not chargeable of anything, but, since Eurussia accused our Navy, and since our Navy was, in reality, not chargeable of anything, thus Eurussia tried to vilify our Navy.

2) We find very hard to believe that 1.000.000 men, 5 nuclear carriers and 9 nuclear submarines were all refueling, AT THE SAME TIME, in one, small, island far from any conflict area and from the very lands of Eurussia. This is simply ridiculous. About our patrols: differently from your deployments, they are public. Instead, Eurussia hidden this HUGE military presence until the visit of Chancellor Putin in the island. We are not simply talking about disclosure of military routes. But such a huge amount of forces is easily capable to change drastically the strategic stability of the region, and, FOR THIS REASON, the fact we were not informed is a violation of the Treaty.

3) Thirdly, stop to hide yourselves behind the verdict. If Eurussia would have not tried to vilify our Navy and to threat our security, if Moscow would have answered to our requests instead of deliberately ignore them, we surely have had no reasons to enforce a blockade on Orenburg.

And, with my powers of temporary Chairman of this Council (since no Chairman has been elected for now), I leave the word to the other Members, now. The Council shall decide.
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Post  Great Eurussia Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:46 pm

New Tarajan wrote:Plese, do not insult the intelligence of this Council.
Your three points provide no real defense.

1) The Court did not pronounce a verdict specifically regarding the issue. So, simply, it avoided to take it into account. However, it clearly recognized that we were not chargeable of anything, but, since Eurussia accused our Navy, and since our Navy was, in reality, not chargeable of anything, thus Eurussia tried to vilify our Navy.

2) We find very hard to believe that 1.000.000 men, 5 nuclear carriers and 9 nuclear submarines were all refueling, AT THE SAME TIME, in one, small, island far from any conflict area and from the very lands of Eurussia. This is simply ridiculous. About our patrols: differently from your deployments, they are public. Instead, Eurussia hidden this HUGE military presence until the visit of Chancellor Putin in the island. We are not simply talking about disclosure of military routes. But such a huge amount of forces is easily capable to change drastically the strategic stability of the region, and, FOR THIS REASON, the fact we were not informed is a violation of the Treaty.

3) Thirdly, stop to hide yourselves behind the verdict. If Eurussia would have not tried to vilify our Navy and to threat our security, if Moscow would have answered to our requests instead of deliberately ignore them, we surely have had no reasons to enforce a blockade on Orenburg.

And, with my powers of temporary Chairman of this Council (since no Chairman has been elected for now), I leave the word to the other Members, now. The Council shall decide.

Eurussia, as a responsible member of the SOWESO and as we continue to stand by principle that all issues being raised here have been resolved within the Court of Justice, and we cannot fathom how a presence of military assets on our own sovereign territory becomes a threat to any nation? Or is it there are nations just feel threatened by our presence? When in fact, we have been blatantly violated by New Tarajan, CONVICTED BY COURT.
Nevertheless, our government is also perplexed on the INCONSISTENCIES of the reasons raised by New Tarajan whenever we are asking for SOWESO RESOLUTIONS or a simple provision from the SOWESO Treaty to support its baseless arguments. But, Eurussia is not surprised, knowing the impact of the Court of Justice's verdict to New Tarajan, and we see all these baseless conversations as a mere HARASSMENT to our government.
Now, for New Tarajan to avoid another wave of humiliation and seeing how inconsistencies are being obviously raised in this Council Session, and taking note that in light of the conviction of the Court of Justice against New Tarajan for disturbing not just regional peace but world peace is a clear violation of the spirit and the SOWESO Treaty itself which is a ground not just for suspension, but expulsion as well, affirmed by COURT. 
Nevertheless,  the Eurussian Empire, as a humble nation, will freely give a space for New Tarajan in this organization as a humanitarian gesture.
Therefore, the Empire of Great Eurussia, officially withdraws from SOWESO. Thank you.
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Post  New Tarajan Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:04 am

We are sorry to see that the Eurussian government is so evidently not able to handle the facts and the simple truth.
No one, here, asked for the expulsion of Eurussia. However, if the Eurussian government is not able to understand that not all the organizations of the world follow its diktats, and that is not possible to always hide the own actions behind some institutional excuse, defining as "harassment" what is, in fact, a simple consequence of your acts, then we express our deep dismay, acknowledging the decision of Moscow to withdraw from this Organization.
It would be interesting to ask to the Eurussian delegate WHY his government did not wait until an official judgement of this Council, since Eurussia is so sure of its complete innocence.

So said, Eurussia is hereby declared out of the South-Western Security Organization.
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Post  Aloia Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:55 am

I think this is where this goes!

Aloia suggests that, since this is the primary international body governing the continent of Mnemosyne, we build a massive international railroad and highway system connecting all the nations' major cities, like the railroad system implemented by our northern continental neighbors. We could use the railroads and highways to supplement commerce between our nations and to allow our ground forces quick routes to other parts of the continent, if need arises for a SOWESO response to an invasion in our continent.

We now have two choices on how to govern the roads and railways. We can require people traveling on the roads to follow traffic nations of the nation they're in, or we can make the roads possessions of SOWESO and pass a SOWESO law determining the behavior on the roads.

Aloia recommends that the roads be funded by the local governments, so nations with smaller presences in Mnemosyne, like Eurussia and Texania, don't have to pay for huge amounts of roads in Aloia and Antanares. As such, the roads should follow the laws of the nation, but be overseen by an international SOWESO commission to make sure there isn't a huge difference between two neighboring nations.
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Post  New Tarajan Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:23 am

We agree with the idea of system of national highways and railways which the SOWESO will oversee in order to keep them in the best maintenance as possible.
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Post  Great Eurussia Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:10 pm

Aloia wrote:
We now have two choices on how to govern the roads and railways. We can require people traveling on the roads to follow traffic nations of the nation they're in, or we can make the roads possessions of SOWESO and pass a SOWESO law determining the behavior on the roads.

Eurussia supports this proposal and suggest that island territories must be connected into this virtual highway of the continent. Thus, aside from railroads and roads, there should also be bridges and if not possible ferr routes where roll-on/roll-off ships shall be used to ensure complete connection in Mnemosyne.
And in response to the above mentioned choices of Aloia where we suggest a good combination of the two options with the creation of the SOWESO Highway Commission who will have the coordinating powers to ensure the implementation of the principles of this continental highway and all expenses and direct management shall remain on the authority of the respective governments in scope of these railroutes, roads, bridges, and ferry routes.
Thank you.
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Post  New Tarajan Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:05 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
Aloia wrote:
We now have two choices on how to govern the roads and railways. We can require people traveling on the roads to follow traffic nations of the nation they're in, or we can make the roads possessions of SOWESO and pass a SOWESO law determining the behavior on the roads.

Eurussia supports this proposal and suggest that island territories must be connected into this virtual highway of the continent. Thus, aside from railroads and roads, there should also be bridges and if not possible ferr routes where roll-on/roll-off ships shall be used to ensure complete connection in Mnemosyne.
And in response to the above mentioned choices of Aloia where we suggest a good combination of the two options with the creation of the SOWESO Highway Commission who will have the coordinating powers to ensure the implementation of the principles of this continental highway and all expenses and direct management shall remain on the authority of the respective governments in scope of these railroutes, roads, bridges, and ferry routes.
Thank you.

Excellent ideas.
At least, I would only suggest to change the name of the proposed body in SOWESO Transport & Logistics Commission (in order to be more comprehensive).
What is the opinion of the other Member States?
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Post  Great Eurussia Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:09 pm

New Tarajan wrote:
Excellent ideas.
At least, I would only suggest to change the name of the proposed body in SOWESO Transport & Logistics Commission (in order to be more comprehensive).
What is the opinion of the other Member States?

Eurussia still prefers the SOWESO Highway Commission as it is more simple and easy to remember and clearly represents the purpose of the agency.
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Post  New Tarajan Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:36 pm

As Secretary General, and as Member of this Organization, New Tarajan wishes to submit to the SOWESO our proposal to start mediation efforts over the Regornian issues.
We cannot allow this conflict to escalate, disrupting the peace and stability of our continent.
We must act, now.
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Post  Great Eurussia Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:59 pm

New Tarajan wrote:As Secretary General, and as Member of this Organization, New Tarajan wishes to submit to the SOWESO our proposal to start mediation efforts over the Regornian issues.
We cannot allow this conflict to escalate, disrupting the peace and stability of our continent.
We must act, now.


Eurussia rejects having SOWESO intervene on the internal affairs of non-member states.

However, our government will only support SOWESO Mediation Intervention if only the Republic of Texania asks for such aid. As we are also concerned by the fact that our Duchy of Orenburg is just south of the Texanian Territory of Regornia under question.
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Post  Texania Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:21 pm

As of now, we are only blockading the rebellious province. We propose that an embargo be placed on the province.
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