(Resolved) Eurussia vs New Tarajan

Europe and Asia wrote:Basically I just want a record of where your ships where at at the time of the emergency, and I want a copy of the Eurussian distress signal.

Great Eurussia wrote:

Europe and Asia wrote:Basically I just want a record of where your ships where at at the time of the emergency, and I want a copy of the Eurussian distress signal.

OOC: With no offensement, this would just be too technical and I guess the court should just rely on our formal statements and weigh the arguments on their own form, whatever it may be :-)

OOC: I agree with Eurussia I mean, I understand the ratio, and, indeed, you are doing a wonderful job, but if we fall into too many technical details, I fear we will never reach the end.

Great Eurussia wrote:

New Tarajan wrote:The government of New Tarajan wishes to answer to our Eurussian colleague.

First of all, the Eurussian request to receive economic damages as compensation is absurd, since they were the first ones to claim that no business was harmed by the blockade and that the ferry and air services by and from the island of Orenburg continued without problems.

Eurussia, as stated on our appeal, deserves to have a compensation of "€500 billion euros" as damages to the illegal naval blockade of New Tarajan, which was ALREADY CONFIRMED BY THIS COURT. This is a reparation to the economic losses to the local economy of the Duchy of Orenburg due to disrupted domestic and international flights, local and international ferry services, local fishing and other aquatic resources gathering, and most importantly, the psychological fears the illegal action of the aggressor caused to millions of the local population and as well as the thousands of tourists due to the naval ships surrounding our territory which of course, all armed and could lead in an eventuality of invasion.

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Our claims can be further attested by New Tarajan itself when it accused our government for using our very own citizens as human shields where in fact they themselves are the threats to the ever peaceful archipelago. The undeniable fact that the illegal actions of the aggressor caused concerns could be attested by the response from the Atletian Government and Stirvan tourists reporting to their own government of their shock and fears of the harassment caused by the naval vessels of New Tarajan, which will rebuke their claims that they are not in our territorial waters where in fact they have caused harassment in unprecedented levels.

About the problems in the submarine, the defense operated by Eurussia is simply a demonstration that we were right: indeed, the Shirouman and the Atletian navies knew the coordinates of the submarine, but NOT our Navy, which were not informed of the existence of this submarine route AT ALL, and which did not know of the presence of Eurussians submarines in the Shirouman Sea. It is fair to remember not only that this was the main reason for our feeling of a threat from Eurussia, but also that it is a far more serious ad dangerous behavior, in full violation of the spirit of the SOWESO Treaty and easily interpretable as an hostile action against our Kingdom.

As what we have stated as well, and as the honourable Court will attest, that the Imperial Navy is not obliged to inform the Tarajani Navy of the route of our submarine who is just simply bound to Orenburg from a goodwill visit in Shirouma as the nuclear powered submarine is in INTERNATIONAL WATERS. However, we are obliged to inform the Shiroumian Navy because the submarine is departing from their territorial waters and the Atletian Navy because our submarine will cross an uncharteredd strait with which our Imperial Navy is unsure if our vessel will cross Atletian waters as its opposite side is only a plain barbaric lands.

Finally, about the request from the Court for the signing of a Treaty between New Tarajan and Eurussia aimed to resolve our disputes, we would like to remind that, also during this trial, we tried to make contact with Moscow, taking the occasions of the presence of Chancellor Putin in Orenburg (clear provocation toward us that we ignored, in the sake of peace and respect of this Court), to ask for a meeting between the Chancellor and the King to create a first ground for negotiations, but we did not receive any response, once again. This, and their decision to ignore also our official invitation to join the International Peace Conference and to sign the Convention for the Peaceful Settlement of Disputes, should be a fair demonstration of the unwillingness of Eurussia to find such a peaceful solution.

Eurussia believes that the warning from the Court of Justice that AGGRESSION FROM NEW TARAJAN should not happen again is supreme over a peace treaty and suffice enough to prevent aggressors from threatening our peace loving Eurussian Empire with which our government humbly submitted to this Court to avoid war. Furthermore, we sincerely believe that inaction to correspondences to Moscow, in which we cannot confirm neither will we confirm, is not equivalent to provocation as there is no proven response, at all.

Again, our APPEAL stands and hopes for a conclusion from this COURT.

New Tarajan wrote:These last statements from Eurussia are a non-sense. Indeed, if they are true, this means that all evidences brought in front of this Court could have been falsified or fabricated ,thus rendering this trial void. For this reason, we respectfully ask the Court to take into consideration the evidences we have already provided, which clearly demonstrate that there was no harm for the business on Orenburg, and we ask to Eurussia to no offend the intelligence of our delegates and of the Court.
We have no intention to deny that the blockade was effectively in place. But we must point out that not only our ships were beyond the territorial waters of Eurussia, they were also not visibles for the population, due to the distance, and the order was specifically given by the Royal Navy to avoid excessive alarming in the population.
Consequently we reject what Eurussia said, stating that we caused "harassment in unprecedent levels". And we reject as well all requests for economic and psycological compensations: since they initially stated that there was no harm for their business, we accept their initial statement.

About previous statements of Eurussia about the Peace Treaty this Court asked for, it is clear their intentions not to negotiate, once again. They are making all what is possible to have the hands free in continuing to harm the interests and own safety of New Tarajan. Our Kingdom reacted to an entire series of provocations and insults, and this is the true reason why we are here, now, in front of this Court. If the judgement of the honourable judges wish to be effective, in order to finally resolve the dispute, negotiations are critical to achieve this noble goal. If Eurussia continues to refuse these negotiations, then, we feel obliged to ask to the Court to impose to Eurussia to not further insult and provoke our country, and to find a way of peaceful, respectful cohabitation with us.
However, we confirm our willingness to negotiate.

Great Eurussia wrote:

New Tarajan wrote:These last statements from Eurussia are a non-sense. Indeed, if they are true, this means that all evidences brought in front of this Court could have been falsified or fabricated ,thus rendering this trial void. For this reason, we respectfully ask the Court to take into consideration the evidences we have already provided, which clearly demonstrate that there was no harm for the business on Orenburg, and we ask to Eurussia to no offend the intelligence of our delegates and of the Court.
We have no intention to deny that the blockade was effectively in place. But we must point out that not only our ships were beyond the territorial waters of Eurussia, they were also not visibles for the population, due to the distance, and the order was specifically given by the Royal Navy to avoid excessive alarming in the population.
Consequently we reject what Eurussia said, stating that we caused "harassment in unprecedent levels". And we reject as well all requests for economic and psycological compensations: since they initially stated that there was no harm for their business, we accept their initial statement.

About previous statements of Eurussia about the Peace Treaty this Court asked for, it is clear their intentions not to negotiate, once again. They are making all what is possible to have the hands free in continuing to harm the interests and own safety of New Tarajan. Our Kingdom reacted to an entire series of provocations and insults, and this is the true reason why we are here, now, in front of this Court. If the judgement of the honourable judges wish to be effective, in order to finally resolve the dispute, negotiations are critical to achieve this noble goal. If Eurussia continues to refuse these negotiations, then, we feel obliged to ask to the Court to impose to Eurussia to not further insult and provoke our country, and to find a way of peaceful, respectful cohabitation with us.
However, we confirm our willingness to negotiate.

Eurussia believes that these responses from the independent sovereign state of Atletius and as well as the tourists from Stirva will obviously reject the claims of the aggressor (New Tarajan) that they are not in the territorial waters of the Duchy of Orenburg with which we believe is already resolved as AFFIRMED BY THE COURT.

Furthermore, the ONLY ISSUES that has to be debated on these period is our APPEAL to remove the fine imposed on Eurussia by the Court and seek for compensation from New Tarajan with the justifications we have provided already right after the VERDICT OF THE COURT.

Eurussia awaits the final decision of the tribunal.

New Tarajan wrote:
These statements are irrilevant. We never said our fleet was in Eurussian territorial waters and, since, before an evidence of the contrary, WE control our fleet, our statements are the true ones. Neither Stirva nor Atletius had, at the moment those statements were released, military vessels near Orenburg. Also, the Stirvan declarations came from a tourist, not identified, and also full of other absurd claims, such as our Fleet is capable of blocking Internet connections. Thus, these declarations are void.

New Tarajan respectfully awaits, now, the decision of the Court.

Great Eurussia wrote:

New Tarajan wrote:
These statements are irrilevant. We never said our fleet was in Eurussian territorial waters and, since, before an evidence of the contrary, WE control our fleet, our statements are the true ones. Neither Stirva nor Atletius had, at the moment those statements were released, military vessels near Orenburg. Also, the Stirvan declarations came from a tourist, not identified, and also full of other absurd claims, such as our Fleet is capable of blocking Internet connections. Thus, these declarations are void.

New Tarajan respectfully awaits, now, the decision of the Court.

Eurussia sees these as plain, blank defensive statements.

New Tarajan wrote:

Great Eurussia wrote:

New Tarajan wrote:
These statements are irrilevant. We never said our fleet was in Eurussian territorial waters and, since, before an evidence of the contrary, WE control our fleet, our statements are the true ones. Neither Stirva nor Atletius had, at the moment those statements were released, military vessels near Orenburg. Also, the Stirvan declarations came from a tourist, not identified, and also full of other absurd claims, such as our Fleet is capable of blocking Internet connections. Thus, these declarations are void.

New Tarajan respectfully awaits, now, the decision of the Court.

Eurussia sees these as plain, blank defensive statements.

We reject these allegations. We are simply stating facts.

We submit the final decision to the Court.

Europe and Asia wrote:The court requests that both parties cease bickering. A verdict is forthcoming.

New Tarajan wrote:We would like to ask to the Court what is remained of the initial verdict regarding the signing of a Peace Treaty between New Tarajan and Eurussia.
Also, we would like to know why the Court accepted the Eurussian thesis of economic reparation while we already provided full evidences that no economic damage was caused in Orenburg, under the words of Eurussia itself. Our position on the question was already well explained in our defence: Eurussia deliberatley claimed that no damage was provoked by the blockade in Orenburg. They claimed then, in response, that the statement was fabricated but, in this case, every evidence brought by Eurussia in front of this Court should be submitted to doubts, thus losing any credibility. For this reason, we respectfully ask the Court to provide explanation on this point and to reconsider it.

Europe and Asia wrote:

New Tarajan wrote:We would like to ask to the Court what is remained of the initial verdict regarding the signing of a Peace Treaty between New Tarajan and Eurussia.
Also, we would like to know why the Court accepted the Eurussian thesis of economic reparation while we already provided full evidences that no economic damage was caused in Orenburg, under the words of Eurussia itself. Our position on the question was already well explained in our defence: Eurussia deliberatley claimed that no damage was provoked by the blockade in Orenburg. They claimed then, in response, that the statement was fabricated but, in this case, every evidence brought by Eurussia in front of this Court should be submitted to doubts, thus losing any credibility. For this reason, we respectfully ask the Court to provide explanation on this point and to reconsider it.

If you wish to reconsider, ask for an appeal.

Furthermore, we looked into the issue and found that fining Eurussia is counterintuitive as they did not move military forces or enforce a blockade.

Furthermore, the court will not reconsider and will enforce the verdict unless an appeal is requested.

Very well. Consider this as an official appeal from the Kingdom of New Tarajan.

As we said before, what we request is:
1) A reconsideration of the evidences brought: we do not ask for fining Eurussia, since we agree with the opinion of the Court that it would be counterintuitive. But we will not accept to pay for damages that, prima facie the same Eurussia did not recognize.
2) Thus, we respectfully ask to the Court for a re-calculation of the total amount of the fine more proportioned to what happened and its direct, true consequences.
3) We respectfully ask to the Court to consider in the verdict the events that led to the blockade, thus implementing in the new verdict what was already expressed by this Court about the need for negotiations and the signing of an agreement between New Tarajan and Eurussia for the definitive end of their disputes and the restoration of peace and cordial relations.

The court demands new evidence be provided or this repeal is utterly baseless and will continue ad infinitum and ad nauseum until you both receive the verdict you desire. New evidence must be out forth or this appeal will be dismissed and the case will maintain the verdict reached before this appeal.

We respectfully ask to the Court to reconsider all these things. Or the Kingdom of New Tarajan should be obliged to deny the validity of a trial which do not recognize fundamental juridical principles, for the sake of Justice. We know the commitment of this Court to the respect and the promotion of Law and Order. New Tarajan always supported these fundamental principles. And, for this reason, for the sake of our own coherence and dignity as a nation, we ask for this.