Which type of government do you support?

New-Zealand Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:53 pm

You may only choose one. So choose the one you would prefer to live under.

So basically you are a normal civilian, you have the choose of living in a country, Which form of government would you want that country to have?

Great Eurussia Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:17 pm

Although the choices seems to be too restrictive like monarchy where there could be absolute and constitutional ones, well I have cast my vote :-D

Royalist Albion Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:21 pm

There are more options available than that, and those options aren't exclusive. For example, you could have a country that's an oligarchy, monarchy, democracy, and theocracy at the same time. Although I'm not sure if you mean theocracy or ecclesiocracy; either would work.

Shirouma Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:23 pm

I support anarchy.

Dromoda Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:48 pm

Shirouma wrote:I support anarchy.

New-Zealand Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:14 pm

I'm talking about the central concept. For example a constitutional monarchy would still be considered democracy, as it is mostly a demcracy with a bit of monarcy.

Great Eurussia Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:17 pm

New-Zealand wrote:I'm talking about the central concept. For example a constitutional monarchy would still be considered democracy, as it is mostly a demcracy with a bit of monarcy.

In that sense, from Monarchy, I will choose Democracy.

Royalist Albion Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:17 am

Well, what do you mean "Central concept"?
Are we talking about the foundation of a state's legitimacy?

Türkiye Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:47 am

Well my choice is Communism:
1) Communism is about the people running the country and the leader as a figure head.
2) 1st group to have equality for woman. It is not hypocritical as the Capitalist.
Bad things about it
1) The government decides on what the people can have, rather than what they want. (Rather than people be greedy like corporate buissnesses) Most all businesses are owned by Government
2) Productivity is low because everyone gains same amount of money

New-Zealand Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:27 am

No albion. I'm talking about who makes the countries decisions. Is it an elected parliament (Democracy)? Is it a single person who is king/queen (Monarchy)? You get what I'm saying?

Browera Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:35 am

I would like to live under capitalism with few restrictions.

New-Zealand Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:39 am

I would like Liberal Socialism (Like the policy taken on by Sweden), with a few reasonable restrictions (Like gun control and stuff) but not phone hacking and invasion of privacy.

Royalist Albion Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:19 pm

The I still don't see the exclusivity.
If you had all local decisions conducted via council, and all national decisions conducted by the monarch, then the core concept would be: Micro democratic-oligarchy, macro monarchism.

Novo Canuckia Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:39 pm

Albion, it's the general concepts were dealing with here. If you wanted a poll which expresses every possible combination of every possible variation of every single system to ever exist, well, we'd still be waiting for New Zealand to finish the list he started yesterday. :P

New-Zealand Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:57 pm

Novo Canuckia wrote:Albion, it's the general concepts were dealing with here. If you wanted a poll which expresses every possible combination of every possible variation of every single system to ever exist, well, we'd still be waiting for New Zealand to finish the list he started yesterday.

well said novo.

Dromoda Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:24 pm

If tribalism was a choice i would chose that. ( because individualism. and for the sake of the community thinking )

Royalist Albion Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:30 pm

No, poorly said. If I was to make a poll on ethnicities, I'd expect more than just "Are you black, white, Arabic, or Asian?" - After all, what of the Slavs and the Turks? Or the Persians? Even with Asians, how do you distinguish between Indians and Chinese or Japanese? Or the North American Mongoloids? You get the point.

So, here, there isn't a difference between Absolute and Constitutional Monarchy, - Where would you class the Most Serene Commonwealth of Poland Lithuania: Monarchy or Oligarchy? And the same question for crowned republics? Is the Mongolian Khanate a Monarchy or Ecclesiocracy? Likewise for Andorra. What of Liechtenstein: Is that a Monarchy or Democracy? Because it's certainly not the same sort of Democracy as the USA - it is a Direct Democracy with a powerful Monarchy. Communism and Anarchism cross over at various places: How do you separate the USSR from some rag-adorned hippies in a commune? Malaysia is a Federalised Monarchy, what's up with that? Et cetera, ad nausium.

The British Empire, for example, was both a Representative Democracy and Constitutional Monarchy. It would be immensely crude (and wrong) to say it was either a Democracy or Monarchy. But I agree that creating a poll with all the possibilities would take forever, so I have a suggestion: Why not just scrap the poll, and let someone briefly name their position? That way, people don't get pushed down one line or another that they might not wholly agree with. More accurate, y'see.

Great Eurussia Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:43 pm

If this would be the case, the poll with simply become democracy vs dictatorship lol

New-Zealand Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:34 pm

Royalist Albion wrote:No, poorly said. If I was to make a poll on ethnicities, I'd expect more than just "Are you black, white, Arabic, or Asian?" - After all, what of the Slavs and the Turks? Or the Persians? Even with Asians, how do you distinguish between Indians and Chinese or Japanese? Or the North American Mongoloids? You get the point.

So, here, there isn't a difference between Absolute and Constitutional Monarchy, - Where would you class the Most Serene Commonwealth of Poland Lithuania: Monarchy or Oligarchy? And the same question for crowned republics? Is the Mongolian Khanate a Monarchy or Ecclesiocracy? Likewise for Andorra. What of Liechtenstein: Is that a Monarchy or Democracy? Because it's certainly not the same sort of Democracy as the USA - it is a Direct Democracy with a powerful Monarchy. Communism and Anarchism cross over at various places: How do you separate the USSR from some rag-adorned hippies in a commune? Malaysia is a Federalised Monarchy, what's up with that? Et cetera, ad nausium.

The British Empire, for example, was both a Representative Democracy and Constitutional Monarchy. It would be immensely crude (and wrong) to say it was either a Democracy or Monarchy. But I agree that creating a poll with all the possibilities would take forever, so I have a suggestion: Why not just scrap the poll, and let someone briefly name their position? That way, people don't get pushed down one line or another that they might not wholly agree with. More accurate, y'see.

Look, I'm not even going to bother answering or reading that post. Everybody else is able to understand this perfectly fine, so either they're all geniuses or you're a clinical retard.

Türkiye Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:02 am

Great Eurussia wrote:If this would be the case, the poll with simply become democracy vs dictatorship lol

No one even voted for Dictatorship

Royalist Albion Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:13 am

Ah, so basically this boils down to your inability to take criticism.

I'm pretty sure if you asked anybody here what political system they support, they wouldn't give a one world pre-school answer.

chivalry Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:09 am

Well if I can only pick on True Democracy

Scots and Ire Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:34 am

I support a socialist government, you can do whatever you want as long as you fallow the governments rules. Not as brutal as communism and not as unfair as capitalism

New Tarajan Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:06 am

The form of government I applied to New Tarajan perfectly answers for me XD
I'm a great supporter of monarchy: more exactly, a sort of fusion between a absolute monarchy (inspired by the positions of Jean Bodin and, eventually, Julius Evola), and that kind of liberalism as designed by John Stuart Mill and Jeremy Bentham (practically, "do what you want in your private sphere of life").

Krabbe Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:10 am

Personally I hold to libertarian ideals and direct democracy(Not modern democracy) tempered with good social order.

If anything it would be some kind of Democracy mixed with integralism.

I believe citizenship should be earned through military service and only citizens should have the right to vote, sit on political bodies(senate, parliament etc), hold public office, owning firearms and being employed management level in corporations or business.

In other words a modernised Athenian democracy.

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