Moscow Peace Summit

As a ZAR member i must say that we are a TRADE UNION and not a military organization we are for open trade between our members and we protect our ships with the nations own navy

ZAR is NOT a Militaristic Organization. We are a TRADE organization, hence ZARISTIC LEAGUE OF TRADE. We only have our OWN military to protect us, however this does not stop other ZAR members from helping us. As for the sunken ZAR ship, you've finally come to the table to talk about this. We thought you had something to hide as you hadn't come to the table and refused to talk while calling us liars over and over again.

Let me ask you a question then.

If a WTU member gets blockaded and/or embargoed, what does the WTU react?

Apepistan wrote:Let me ask you a question then.

If a WTU member gets blockaded and/or embargoed, what does the WTU react?

Very simple. WTU consult each other on what to do because we are not a militaristic organization like the ZAR. Blockade is an economic sabotage while embargo is an economic sanction which has different implications and causes and WTU is focusing on peaceful trade.

Great Eurussia wrote:

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Eurussian Ambassador to the World Trade Union

His Excellency, Yury Trutnev

"It is our belief that both sides have serious points against each other. However, at the moment, the most critical matter we should address is the sinking of a ZAR ship allegedly by a WTU ship. This can be treated as an act of war.

May we ask ZAR if it has evidence to support its claims?

On the other hand, we commend ZAR for suspending its talks to impose an embargo against WTU which we believe is helpful in our diplomatic dialogue."

The Republic of Scottlands has been asking this for so long too.

Republic of Scottlands wrote:

Apepistan wrote:Let me ask you a question then.

If a WTU member gets blockaded and/or embargoed, what does the WTU react?

Very simple. WTU consult each other on what to do because we are not a militaristic organization like the ZAR. Blockade is an economic sabotage while embargo is an economic sanction which has different implications and causes and WTU is focusing on peaceful trade.

I would like to point out a fact that may be flying over people's heads. The ZAR are not a militaristic organization. They are in fact a Trade Alliance. Yes while I agree that a blockade is an economic sabotage, it should not be taken to dramatically and blown out of proportion. I take it though that WTU members in particular are confusing the SHAD with the ZAR whose members are relatively the same. I wish to see the way ZAR is militaristic in anyway shape or form? A document perhaps that states they are both a trade and military alliance. We all know that SHAD is a highly militarized alliance. It is suppose to be, but ZAR is a highly economically motivated alliance. What gain do a bunch of merchants and entrepreneurs gain from going to war with other trade alliances. The fact that ZAR members can join the WTU makes this issue extremely unpleasant and confusing. It was clearly stated, and this is evidence that has not been tampered with hopefully, that ZAR members could join WTU but the WTU was a rival trade alliance to ZAR. At this point any argument you try to make is invalid until that point is addressed first and foremost. Once this confusion as to whether the WTU is actually a rival or not of the ZAR is cleared then we could continue on to the other points. 

Facts so far that I as an outside observer have seen. Is that the WTU is the rival to ZAR however allows ZAR members to join. That ZAR is a trade alliance and in no way shape or form has a coalition army at the ready. That both WTU and ZAR nations use their own military forces to provide protection to their merchant vessels which are manned by the nationals of said nation and the protection of the vessel itself which is under protection of the origin state. 

This is all I have seen and I hope that both the WTU and the ZAR can clear the air of confusion and professional and maturely deal with this issue at hand with out pointing fingers at who is what and why they are as such.

Lady Nicola arrives from Scottish Republic

"I beg your pardon gentlemen. I am sorry for interrupting this peace talks. I am the new President of the Scottish Republic and since we announce our neutrality. We want to finish this talks once and for all. We want to live in peace with Zaristic League."

Then let us agree on:

I. WTU and ZAR both publicly apologise to each other and stop hostilities. WTU and ZAR will be trade partners instead of rivals from now on.

II. WTU and ZAR both agree to hold each others ideologies in respect and speak the truth and only the truth concerning the other.

III. WTU and ZAR both agree not to issue embargo on each other in order to guarantee a free and prosperous trade.

IV. WTU and ZAR set a fixed, common tax rate on each others wares and goods, meaning that ZAR trade to WTU gets the same tax rate for a certain type ware that WTU trade to ZAR for the same same type of ware.

V. WTU and ZAR help each other identify attacks on each others property and personell.

VI. Both WTU and ZAR agree to issue sanctions or even kick their member(s) if they break the treaty without justificable reason.


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I think this sums up most of it, but please feel free to add, take, or retake anything if you see it fit that way.

Apepistan wrote:Then let us agree on:

I. WTU and ZAR both publicly apologise to each other and stop hostilities. WTU and ZAR will be trade partners instead of rivals from now on.

II. WTU and ZAR both agree to hold each others ideologies in respect and speak the truth and only the truth concerning the other.

III. WTU and ZAR both agree not to issue embargo on each other in order to guarantee a free and prosperous trade.

IV. WTU and ZAR set a fixed, common tax rate on each others wares and goods, meaning that ZAR trade to WTU gets the same tax rate for a certain type ware that WTU trade to ZAR for the same same type of ware.

V. WTU and ZAR help each other identify attacks on each others property and personell.

VI. Both WTU and ZAR agree to issue sanctions or even kick their member(s) if they break the treaty without justificable reason.


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I think this sums up most of it, but please feel free to add, take, or retake anything if you see it fit that way.

1) ZAR should be the one to apologize to WTU because of accusing us of sinking ships without evidence until now.

2) Agreed.

3) Rejected because we are a neutral nation.

4) Agreed.

5) Rejected because we are a neutral nation.

6) Rejected because we are a neutral nation.

Scottish Republic and the 12 powerful nations of WTU wants an apology from ZAR.

The Atlantican Observer stands up, "I am sorry for the interruption but, Atlantica is hoping we can reach a form of peace and order, ZAR and WTU are little more than trade unions, not a axis powers vs allies. We should been working together to find out who did the attack and future attacks to avoid this happening again, even if it is just a "We did not attack" statement from one of the sides. Is that not a more orderly and peaceful way of doing this Ladies and Gentlemen?" The observer sat back down after speaking.

Again, ZAR never claimed that a WTU member sunk a ZAR trade ship, it was suspected; that is why we asked WTU about it before forming a statement about the matter.

Why should only ZAR make a public apology if WTU is spreading lies about ZAR?

What does 3, 5 and 6 have to do with the Scottish Republic being a neutral nation?
3 and 5 are simply agreements on peaceful, efficient cooperation, and 6 is there to ensure that both WTU and ZAR will take responsibility for the actions of their members.
We do not see how this interferes with the neutrality of the Scottish Republic.

Who exactly are the 12 nations of WTU?
For us it seems the Scottish Republic has founded it, Svaerige, Eurussia, Uzukima, Empire of Russia and China China have applied and been accepted as members, with Omega Atlantica being an observer.

ZAR, on the other hand, has 12 members: Azotakza, Apepistan, Shlask, Omega Atlantica, Beylov, Snarfia, Xolox, Homerton, Kondrovo, Muchos Estados, United States of Scouting and Hungaria Nova, and Eurussia as an observer according to the official list of our organisation.

I approve of this agreement in behalf of the World Trade Union.

Apepistan wrote:Again, ZAR never claimed that a WTU member sunk a ZAR trade ship, it was suspected; that is why we asked WTU about it before forming a statement about the matter.

Why should only ZAR make a public apology if WTU is spreading lies about ZAR?

What does 3, 5 and 6 have to do with the Scottish Republic being a neutral nation?
3 and 5 are simply agreements on peaceful, efficient cooperation, and 6 is there to ensure that both WTU and ZAR will take responsibility for the actions of their members.
We do not see how this interferes with the neutrality of the Scottish Republic.

Who exactly are the 12 nations of WTU?
For us it seems the Scottish Republic has founded it, Svaerige, Eurussia, Uzukima, Empire of Russia and China China have applied and been accepted as members, with Omega Atlantica being an observer.

ZAR, on the other hand, has 12 members: Azotakza, Apepistan, Shlask, Omega Atlantica, Beylov, Snarfia, Xolox, Homerton, Kondrovo, Muchos Estados, United States of Scouting and Hungaria Nova, and Eurussia as an observer according to the official list of our organisation.

Our questions remain unanswered.

When will this end? I think Apepistan should lower his ego and just accept the compromise.

Muchos Estados Unidos wrote:When will this end? I think Apepistan should lower his ego and just accept the compromise.

To answer your question, this ends now.

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan will recall Ambassador Lord Muhtar Tenger from the summit. Our points are completely ignored over and over again, there is no further point in wasting each others time.

If another ZAR member wishes to continue, so be it.

Apepistan wrote:

Muchos Estados Unidos wrote:When will this end? I think Apepistan should lower his ego and just accept the compromise.

To answer your question, this ends now.

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan will recall Ambassador Lord Muhtar Tenger from the summit. Our points are completely ignored over and over again, there is no further point in wasting each others time.

If another ZAR member wishes to continue, so be it.

The United States of Scouting recalls Secretary of State, Johnathan McClure.

Lady Nicola will also leave the meeting because Apepistan is walking out and failed to prove that WTU is involve in any sinking of ZAR ship and it refuse to accept the proposed Declaration for Peace we accepted. Scottish Republic criticize Apepistan for this.

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan will send Ambassador Jeno Temud as an observer to the peace conference.

Emperor Constantine walked into the room followed by Lord Hugard the Lord of the Imperial Marines. Both men walked in and looked at all currently present , after seeing President Xi Lord Hugard whispered something in the Emperor's ear, speaking in Artitian. Both men laughed and quickly took their seats. They were both wearing the Imperial Marine Dress Uniform, the Emperors slightly more decorated than Lord Hugard's but both men boasted excellent military careers. Suddenly Emperor Constantine cleared his throat. 

"Before I lay down The Holy Empire of Artite's terms for Mr. Xi here, I would like to know his stand on this most delicate situation, and Eurussia's stand as well. Then I will lay down my terms. Just be warned, if these talks fail it will because of the Chinese, I do not intend to disrespect the host as my brother did."

Emperor Constantine pulled out a gold cigarette case and pulled out one promptly lighting it.