Re: (WADSP) World Alliance Democratic Socialist Party

New-Zealand Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:25 am

Europe and Asia wrote:
New-Zealand wrote:Guys just informing you that I've updated our main page a bit. Have a look, I've split up the party caucus into two categories, It'll all come into effect after we have the party internal election.

Also, considering E&A is running for Court of Justice, I have decided to appoint Havenburgh as my deputy leader. I know he is new to our party, but I have spoken with him and believe him to be just the man our party needs.
Actually, I am now Chief Justice. In this capacity, should I step down from my position as co leader and enter an advisory capacity?

I'm thinking of appointing you as President of the WADSP, and Eurussia as Secretary General (Your deputy). You guys will essentially be the behind the scenes leaders of the organization. Whereas Hevenburgh and I will be the publicised leaders of our party.

Great Eurussia Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:10 am

New-Zealand wrote:
Europe and Asia wrote:
New-Zealand wrote:Guys just informing you that I've updated our main page a bit. Have a look, I've split up the party caucus into two categories, It'll all come into effect after we have the party internal election.

Also, considering E&A is running for Court of Justice, I have decided to appoint Havenburgh as my deputy leader. I know he is new to our party, but I have spoken with him and believe him to be just the man our party needs.
Actually, I am now Chief Justice. In this capacity, should I step down from my position as co leader and enter an advisory capacity?
I'm thinking of appointing you as President of the WADSP, and Eurussia as Secretary General (Your deputy). You guys will essentially be the behind the scenes leaders of the organization. Whereas Hevenburgh and I will be the publicised leaders of our party.

I have no problem with this. The Party needs to submit its Caucus List sooner.

Europe and Asia Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:06 pm

New-Zealand wrote:
Europe and Asia wrote:
New-Zealand wrote:Guys just informing you that I've updated our main page a bit. Have a look, I've split up the party caucus into two categories, It'll all come into effect after we have the party internal election.

Also, considering E&A is running for Court of Justice, I have decided to appoint Havenburgh as my deputy leader. I know he is new to our party, but I have spoken with him and believe him to be just the man our party needs.
Actually, I am now Chief Justice. In this capacity, should I step down from my position as co leader and enter an advisory capacity?
I'm thinking of appointing you as President of the WADSP, and Eurussia as Secretary General (Your deputy). You guys will essentially be the behind the scenes leaders of the organization. Whereas Hevenburgh and I will be the publicised leaders of our party.

I can do that. I'll accept the role of president.

Great Eurussia Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:18 pm

As the Secretary General, allow me to guide on the next step after the Elections.

1) CAUCUS LIST

Party leaders must submit (post here) the official Caucus List of the member states of your Party that will take up the seats your Party won on the elections. If you have more seats than your members, you have to decide whether to give that seats to other nations (probably giving it up to other Parties) or that seat will remain vacant for the rest of the entire term. If you decide to give it to other nations, technically, if that nation is a member of his own Party, that receiving Party will have an increase in seats in Parliament. So you have to be clear if your free seats will become a "coalition seat with other Party" or give it up (as some says that you are friends with other nations in other Parties, but hey, this is politics!) or just make that seat vacant to maintain the status quo or your "numbers" in Parliament which is crucial for voting numbers and electing the WA Council. Your Caucus List is crucial as once the Parliament is in "session," that is your permanent composition throughout the next three months in power!

2) SPEAKERSHIP

Well, once the Secretary General (Eurussia) opens the Session of Parliament, I will administer the election of the Speaker. And what the hell he will be doing? He will lead the entire Parliament and regularly talk to the Leaders of each Party for a smooth running in Parliament. He is also next in line to the President of the Council. Frankly, Party Leaders must talk to other Parties for compromise but if you don't want to, well then, make sure you have the most voting numbers against other Parties so that your bet within your Party could take the Speakership! He will be the one making rules for the Parliament to be organized, he will make sure if every proposals (he also creates the threads and not me anymore!) follows the three day rule and so on and so forth! But there is no reason, for now, how to remove him! So we'll just deal with it later! LOL

3) WA COUNCIL

So we have now a Speaker? Now we focus on electing the powerful executive branch! The Council! The Constitution simply says it is composed of seven nations including its President, literally the President of the World Alliance! The Council will have all the powers of the previous Security Council such as interventions, commendation, condemnation, all executive powers! They could also make themselves Minister of this and Minister of that! Secretary of this or Secretary of that! The Council's power is limitless as the Constitution simply says it can exercise all executive powers! And the Council make sure all regional (international) laws are properly enforced and observed in all OOC, RP and so on and so forth. But most importantly, the Council will remain in power for as long as the Parliament is confident with it and no parliament member state proposes a vote of no confidence which if supported by majority, the Council must be dissolved!

The problem is, how are we going to elect the seven nations in the Council and how do we choose the President? When all Parties are struggling to fight each other to control power in the region? (there's nothing wrong with this, this is politics! remember?) But if all wanted for the good of the region, we will have no problem with this. I hope so, LOL. I will leave this problem to the future SPEAKER!

4) THREE "BRANCHES" OF GOVERNMENT FILLED!

At last, if we come to this point, we were very successful in crafting a Constitution! Because we were able to perfectly establish the democratic institutions we all wanted after the Security Council and Court setup for the last eight months or so. Well, once the Court if fully filled, the Parliament is in session, and the Council is perfectly in place, the business of government can now fully function to give the World Alliance a good, better, and brighter future for all of us residents of our great region!

THE END!

New-Zealand Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:31 pm

Here's the caucus I'm taking with me into parliament.

- Me
- Havenburgh
- Eurussia
- Freedom Planita 2
- Europa
- Shirouma

Great Eurussia Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:42 pm

New-Zealand wrote:Here's the caucus I'm taking with me into parliament.

- Me
- Havenburgh
- Eurussia
- Freedom Planita 2
- Europa
- Shirouma

With 6 seats for the WADS Party, the Secretary General accepts the Caucus List.

Europe and Asia Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:29 pm

We must also have a strategy for parliament. I believe that the views of the royalist party and the WADSP are at odds, yes?

New-Zealand Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:30 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:We must also have a strategy for parliament. I believe that the views of the royalist party and the WADSP are at odds, yes?

I believe so.

Europe and Asia Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:47 pm

New-Zealand wrote:
Europe and Asia wrote:We must also have a strategy for parliament. I believe that the views of the royalist party and the WADSP are at odds, yes?
I believe so.

Then our goal should be to oppose their ideals and not allow them any ground until we win majority.

vermontopia d.c Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:43 am

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Europe and Asia Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:52 pm

My friends, a dark threat has fallen across the region. A Fascist party is now present in our great region. As president, I call an emergency meeting to discuss this new threat.

Shirouma Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:36 am

Do you really think it's a threat? It's only a single nation leading a single nation party.

United States of Europe Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:01 am

We must be vigilant on the issue.
In all cases of threats to the region, the WAAF and its allies will work to neutralize the enemy.

Shirouma Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:16 am

Easy up now, nobody's attacking anyone here for now.

Shirouma Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:19 am

And a question for you in the leadership, don't you think we should start writing a programme for our party? We could base in on real life Social-Democratic party programmes.

New-Zealand Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:41 am

vermontopia d.c wrote:http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=A4YwZjyQ_azz3M&tbnid=lw78PAB65auP4M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Flistverse.com%2F2013%2F05%2F06%2F10-reasons-the-war-on-terror-is-killing-you%2F&ei=V8N2UoaqMZGpsAT_koHIBA&bvm=bv.55819444,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNH2PZ3P-4H8uRII-ecHR1B5EaY_LA&ust=1383601346129139

Welcome to the WADSP Soviet Vermontopia! Smile

New-Zealand Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:42 am

Shirouma wrote:And a question for you in the leadership, don't you think we should start writing a programme for our party? We could base in on real life Social-Democratic party programmes.

Program as in the policies we plan to enact?

United States of Europe Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:33 pm

Of course, it might be a good idea.
Given that the other parties are pushing for a break-up of the region, an increase of national autonomy, we could do the opposite.
Working for a more unified region, to strengthen policies and regional institutions.
What do you think?

New-Zealand Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:48 pm

United States of Europe wrote:Of course, it might be a good idea.
Given that the other parties are pushing for a break-up of the region, an increase of national autonomy, we could do the opposite.
Working for a more unified region, to strengthen policies and regional institutions.
What do you think?

I was thinking the exact same thing Smile

I'll draft up some policies soon.

New-Zealand Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:04 pm

Actually, anyone with any proposals for new policies just post them here, then we can discuss them and if we all (or at least most of us) like it, I'll incorporate them into our party portfolio.

New-Zealand Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:04 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:My friends, a dark threat has fallen across the region. A Fascist party is now present in our great region. As president, I call an emergency meeting to discuss this new threat.

Perhaps this is something the CSSN should handle?

Great Eurussia Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:46 pm

New-Zealand wrote:
Europe and Asia wrote:My friends, a dark threat has fallen across the region. A Fascist party is now present in our great region. As president, I call an emergency meeting to discuss this new threat.
Perhaps this is something the CSSN should handle?

It is any nation to have them stand on their belief. It is just a political party.

If fascism is used against our citizens and spread of terror, it's a different story.

Europe and Asia Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:07 pm

Fascism is in direct opposition to our beliefs.

United States of Europe Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:19 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:Fascism is in direct opposition to our beliefs.

This does not justify military action.
Unless this does not undermine international stability, in that case an armed intervention will be amply justified, and supported by the regional institutions.

Also, how does this party on Customs Union and international economic and social cooperation?
Are policies that we have launched in recent times, and we are making good progress.

Great Eurussia Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:04 pm

I think we should also adopt a bloc voting policy whereby the Leadership (after consultations) will decide on the stance the WADSP will take on various issues. I mean, if there are issues that has to be decided on by the entire party (like voting on proposals) members should not pre-empt the leadership. If the Leadership (after consultations) decides to go in favor of a proposal, all members of the Party should abide by it (even if they are undecided or against it) in the spirit of unity and trust to the Party.

I mean no violation of anything but rather to instill discipline and unity among us.

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