Re: (IGP) International Green Party

New-Zealand Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:45 am

That means you must give 3 seats to another party of your choice. Thus forming a coalition government.

Arveyres Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:27 am

And if we do not disperse the seats?

New-Zealand Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:47 am

Well, you kinda have to. Considering you can only give seats to people who were registered in this election, so new members which you take on now, only count for the next election. You could choose not to give excess seats, and instead leave them vacant, but that would be pointless cause you wont be able to form a coalition government and would end up with 4 seats, whilst WARP and WADSP have 6 each, putting them in power. Essentially what I'm saying is, the best course of action for you would be to give the excess seats to one of the other parties and form a coalition government with them.

Great Eurussia Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:19 pm

As the Secretary General, allow me to guide on the next step after the Elections.

1) CAUCUS LIST

Party leaders must submit (post here) the official Caucus List of the member states of your Party that will take up the seats your Party won on the elections. If you have more seats than your members, you have to decide whether to give that seats to other nations (probably giving it up to other Parties) or that seat will remain vacant for the rest of the entire term. If you decide to give it to other nations, technically, if that nation is a member of his own Party, that receiving Party will have an increase in seats in Parliament. So you have to be clear if your free seats will become a "coalition seat with other Party" or give it up (as some says that you are friends with other nations in other Parties, but hey, this is politics!) or just make that seat vacant to maintain the status quo or your "numbers" in Parliament which is crucial for voting numbers and electing the WA Council. Your Caucus List is crucial as once the Parliament is in "session," that is your permanent composition throughout the next three months in power!

2) SPEAKERSHIP

Well, once the Secretary General (Eurussia) opens the Session of Parliament, I will administer the election of the Speaker. And what the hell he will be doing? He will lead the entire Parliament and regularly talk to the Leaders of each Party for a smooth running in Parliament. He is also next in line to the President of the Council. Frankly, Party Leaders must talk to other Parties for compromise but if you don't want to, well then, make sure you have the most voting numbers against other Parties so that your bet within your Party could take the Speakership! He will be the one making rules for the Parliament to be organized, he will make sure if every proposals (he also creates the threads and not me anymore!) follows the three day rule and so on and so forth! But there is no reason, for now, how to remove him! So we'll just deal with it later! LOL

3) WA COUNCIL

So we have now a Speaker? Now we focus on electing the powerful executive branch! The Council! The Constitution simply says it is composed of seven nations including its President, literally the President of the World Alliance! The Council will have all the powers of the previous Security Council such as interventions, commendation, condemnation, all executive powers! They could also make themselves Minister of this and Minister of that! Secretary of this or Secretary of that! The Council's power is limitless as the Constitution simply says it can exercise all executive powers! And the Council make sure all regional (international) laws are properly enforced and observed in all OOC, RP and so on and so forth. But most importantly, the Council will remain in power for as long as the Parliament is confident with it and no parliament member state proposes a vote of no confidence which if supported by majority, the Council must be dissolved!

The problem is, how are we going to elect the seven nations in the Council and how do we choose the President? When all Parties are struggling to fight each other to control power in the region? (there's nothing wrong with this, this is politics! remember?) But if all wanted for the good of the region, we will have no problem with this. I hope so, LOL. I will leave this problem to the future SPEAKER!

4) THREE "BRANCHES" OF GOVERNMENT FILLED!

At last, if we come to this point, we were very successful in crafting a Constitution! Because we were able to perfectly establish the democratic institutions we all wanted after the Security Council and Court setup for the last eight months or so. Well, once the Court if fully filled, the Parliament is in session, and the Council is perfectly in place, the business of government can now fully function to give the World Alliance a good, better, and brighter future for all of us residents of our great region!

THE END!

Yellasia Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:47 am

Technically we could just leave the seats vacant but I think it would be in our interests to work something out.

Which we shall discuss via telegram just because. >_>

Arveyres Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:24 am

I'd vote all IGN members get a seat and the remaining three be split as: 1 to WADSP, WARP, and Dromoda.

Yellasia Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:28 am

Official Green Party Caucus (for Parliament):

Yellasia
Aloia
Holy Patrician States
Lonbonia

Fair idea HPS, however I'm afraid we'd allow a deadlock to occur.

Great Eurussia Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:49 am

Yellasia wrote:Official Green Party Caucus (for Parliament):

Yellasia
Aloia
Holy Patrician States
Lonbonia

Fair idea HPS, however I'm afraid we'd allow a deadlock to occur.

So this means your 3 extra seats will remain vacant?

Yellasia Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:22 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
So this means your 3 extra seats will remain vacant?

We are still discussing what to do with the seats.

As Aloia said though, we must start a large recruitment campaign to ensure this never happens again.

Great Eurussia Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:30 pm

Yellasia wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
So this means your 3 extra seats will remain vacant?
We are still discussing what to do with the seats.

As Aloia said though, we must start a large recruitment campaign to ensure this never happens again.

Then, your Party still has no Official Caucus List. A decision must be made as soon as possible.

The IGP is the last party to submit a list before the Secretary General opens the Parliament.

Yellasia Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:38 am

Official Caucus List:

Yellasia
Aloia
Holy Patrician States
One seat given to the Democratic Socialist Party
One seat given to the Royalist Party
One seat given to Greater Aurea (registered independent)

The seat previously occupied by Lonbonia will remain vacant.

We realise that this decision to distribute our seats among multiple party lines would not be practical in real world politics; however, the party has decided to avoid forming a coalition as each major party has offered us things that we cannot choose. Despite not forming a coalition, we have opted to offer our excess seats as it is our duty to ensure that as many nations are represented as possible. We have decided that it is in the interest of the entire World Alliance to not form a major coalition.

Great Eurussia Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:41 am

Yellasia wrote:Official Caucus List:

Yellasia
Aloia
Holy Patrician States
One seat given to the Democratic Socialist Party
One seat given to the Royalist Party
One seat given to Greater Aurea (registered independent)

The seat previously occupied by Lonbonia will remain vacant.

We realise that this decision to distribute our seats among multiple party lines would not be practical in real world politics; however, the party has decided to avoid forming a coalition as each major party has offered us things that we cannot choose. Despite not forming a coalition, we have opted to offer our excess seats as it is our duty to ensure that as many nations are represented as possible. We have decided that it is in the interest of the entire World Alliance to not form a major coalition.

The Secretary General accepts your Caucus List.

Erithia Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:33 am

Erithia would like to join the Green Party.

Aloia Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:17 am

We might as well make one of our requirements to join be to have a horizontal tricolor lol. HPS is the only member who doesn't have one! Haha

Erithia Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:50 am

Are there no vertical tricolours? Shocking!

Yellasia Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:34 am

Erithia is accepted as a member of the International Green Party!

I will also send out invitations. We should probably decide on a formal method of accepting members.

Also, regarding the house speakership, we should perhaps choose one of the three of us for the position and all vote for that position. While I am interested in the Council, I am not sure if I want to take up the house speakership, so if either Aloia or the Holy Patrician States would like to run, let us know.

Arveyres Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:02 am

I would not like to run.

Aloia Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:41 pm

I would also be interested in the Council, but I would also like to run for speaker. I believe that, even though we are the smallest of the 3 parties, we do have the benefit of being a third party that has shown that we won't play favorites with the other two parties. I think they'll respect this impartiality and support our candidate for speaker, at least to some extent.

Erithia Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:55 am

Since the speakership has been filled are we going to all run for the council now?

Aloia Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:38 am

I think that we should run, but there will probably be a 13-way tie with the WASDP and WARP voting along party lines, so it'll be up to us and the independents to determine who wins. Maybe if we run, we can also change the results by having some of them vote for us

Erithia Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:36 am

I suggest we put forward a single candidate for council, and vote largely for W.A.R.P, we have more in common with them tha, WASP

Yellasia Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:12 am

I announced my candidacy to meet the deadline, but I am not necessarily expecting to win any votes. We should all vote for Aloia as a council member, as I doubt we will be able to gain two council seats.

Edit: I just realised that we do this just like the old council, so we have seven votes each.

I suggest that we all give two votes to Aloia and I for sure. There seems to be a split in this party on which major party we should support. I feel more in favour of the socialists, but obviously some of us are more in favour of the royalists. Instead of simply picking one party to send our council votes towards, we should identify which individual candidates are likely to support our policies, regardless of party affiliation, as the Council members will be more influential, thus more capable of guiding their party's policies in line with us.

Arveyres Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:17 am

Congratulations my fellow Greens on this occasion of being elected into three of the seven Parliamentary Council seats. I would also like to point out that all Greens that were available to be elected into the council were. Let's hope for a prosperous remainder of our three-month term.

Long live the Green Party! Smile

New Tarajan Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:39 pm

On the behalf of the WARP, we wish to give you our most sincere congratulations for the election of many of your members in the First WA Council.
We look for a deep cooperation between us!
And thanks also to all those Members of the IGP who decided to vote for us!

Great Eurussia Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:42 am

I would like to congratulate the Green Party for gaining seats in Parliament and in Council! May we all continue to work towards the good of our great region! The World Alliance!

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