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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:30 pm



FARSHONIA NEUTRAL INTERVENTION
Authored by the Empire of Great Eurussia
Citing the complexity of the situation in Farshonia following the secessionist movements in the country that resulted to the fragile standoff between two opposing sides where one supports the secessionists states while the other supports the legitimate Farshonian Govrrnment. And despite the on-going ceasefire after our calls to the international community, the Eurussian Empire, as a responsible member of this Council, requests for a Neutral Party to oversee the ceasefire to allow the international community reach an amicable solution for Farshonia.

Section 1) The World Alliance do hereby recognize that the Empire of Farshonia is an independent sovereign state that is currently engaging secessionism to seek for a peaceful solutiom for the people of Farshonia. Hence, such peace shall perpetually be maintained until a peaceful resolution has been achieved.
Section 2) The World Alliance Armed Forces is hereby ordered to deploy its units throughout Farshonia to maintain a neutral force in maintaining peace in Farshonia.
Section 3) The World Alliance Humanitarian Organization is hereby ordered to deploy its units throughout Farshonia to maintain a neutral humanitarian mission in aid to the Government of Farshonia in providing immediate assistance to the people of Farshonia.
Section 4) The World Alliance Department of Security & Justice is hereby ordered to deploy its units throughout Farshonia to secure critical national infrastructure and installations in providing necessary internal security for the people of Farshonia.
Section 5) The World Alliance, recognizing the Empire of Farshonia, shall not recognize any territorial acquisition made by another state in Farshonia by force or coercion. And in case of complete disintegration of Farshonia, the World Alliance shall be empowered of the administration of the Empire of Farshonia, through the necessary WA Organizations, with the specific aim to create the ground for a rebirth of a responsible government, which shall be determined by the WA Council.
Section 6) Any state which violates the provisions of this intervention is considered a hostility against the World Alliance and violation of the Constitution. Thus, all provisions of this intervention shall be automatically revoked if peace is achieved in Farshonia which must be certified by the neutral institutions of the world, the WAAF Secretary General, WAHO Secretary General, WADSJ Secretary General, and WA Secretary General. And due notification to the WA Council.


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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:40 pm

Of course, Eurussia is in favor.
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Post  New-Zealand Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:00 pm

New-Zealand votes in FAVOUR
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Post  Ireland Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:15 pm

Though I am not a member of the Council I am in full support of this bill.
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Post  New Tarajan Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:36 pm

New Tarajan does not agree with many provisions of this text.
While we commend the intention of giving to the Council the possibility to create a legal framework for international peacekeeping in Farshonia, it is not possible to avoid pointing out that the clauses about the WAAF, WAHO and DS&J, refers only to the Farshonian government.
In such a delicate situation, with many other forces (the secessionists) on the ground, this text would provide not for a neutral position of the WA forces, but for them standing alongside Farshonia. This fact could seriously undermine the peace process undergoing in the Astana Summit.
Thus, we request a re-formulation of the same clauses.

Also, I wish to make a small note: the ceasefire has been the result of international diplomacy, not of single-country diplomacy. Of course, mentioning this would aid other countries to accept the resolution of the Council as well.
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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:10 pm

New Tarajan wrote:New Tarajan does not agree with many provisions of this text.
While we commend the intention of giving to the Council the possibility to create a legal framework for international peacekeeping in Farshonia, it is not possible to avoid pointing out that the clauses about the WAAF, WAHO and DS&J, refers only to the Farshonian government.
In such a delicate situation, with many other forces (the secessionists) on the ground, this text would provide not for a neutral position of the WA forces, but for them standing alongside Farshonia. This fact could seriously undermine the peace process undergoing in the Astana Summit.
Thus, we request a re-formulation of the same clauses.

Also, I wish to make a small note: the ceasefire has been the result of international diplomacy, not of single-country diplomacy. Of course, mentioning this would aid other countries to accept the resolution of the Council as well.

It is very obvious, it says NEUTRAL. And it is clearly stated of finding a peaceful and amicable solution between Farshonia and the secessionist states. And there is nothing more to be concerned of as the status quo is already clear in the peace talks.
We need to be concerned of having these forces be deployed in Farshonia immediately before a problem between opposing side occurs that could spark another round of tensions that might escalate.
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Post  New Tarajan Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:18 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:New Tarajan does not agree with many provisions of this text.
While we commend the intention of giving to the Council the possibility to create a legal framework for international peacekeeping in Farshonia, it is not possible to avoid pointing out that the clauses about the WAAF, WAHO and DS&J, refers only to the Farshonian government.
In such a delicate situation, with many other forces (the secessionists) on the ground, this text would provide not for a neutral position of the WA forces, but for them standing alongside Farshonia. This fact could seriously undermine the peace process undergoing in the Astana Summit.
Thus, we request a re-formulation of the same clauses.

Also, I wish to make a small note: the ceasefire has been the result of international diplomacy, not of single-country diplomacy. Of course, mentioning this would aid other countries to accept the resolution of the Council as well.

It is very obvious, it says NEUTRAL. And it is clearly stated of finding a peaceful and amicable solution between Farshonia and the secessionist states. And there is nothing more to be concerned of as the status quo is already clear in the peace talks.
We need to be concerned of having these forces be deployed in Farshonia immediately before a problem between opposing side occurs that could spark another round of tensions that might escalate.

Of course, it says NEUTRAL. But, at the same time, those clauses provide for the opposite case: this would create chaos inside the intervention forces once deployed. Furthermore, is better to modify those statements, to make this text really effective.
A quick deployment is of critical importance, of course; but this doesn't mean it must hapen at detriment of their efficacy, particularly if we think that there are already neutrale forces (New Tarajan, Dromoda) keeping guarantee on the cease-fire.
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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:21 pm

New Tarajan wrote:A quick deployment is of critical importance, of course; but this doesn't mean it must hapen at detriment of their efficacy, particularly if we think that there are already neutrale forces (New Tarajan, Dromoda) keeping  guarantee on the cease-fire.

We see no problem. And this is always the problem. Who can say that your forces will forever remain neutral there? Anyone could just simply deploy forces and announce their neutrality. Then later invade. Words are not enough and legal grounds must always be in place.

International deployments should carry the badge of the WAAF, WAHO & WADSJ to claim neutrality there.
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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:36 pm

Great Empire of Ireland wrote:Though I am not a member of the Council I am in full support of this bill.

Thank you for being a responsible state.
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Post  Atletius Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:53 pm

It's seems WAAF neutrality Is insured by this so
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We are looking over this again so withdraw this vote.


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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:48 pm

Atletius wrote:It's seems WAAF neutrality Is insured by this so
FAVOUR

Definitely. Thank you.
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Post  Atletius Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:09 pm

Reading this again, I worry about Section 2 in particular.
I would say the WAAF force should not aid the Farshonian Armed Forces, as they ultimately cannot be trusted to keep the peace, nor can any nations force that is Farshonia.
The WAAF should be the only Peacekeeping armed force in Farshonia.
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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:39 pm

Atletius wrote:Reading this again, I worry about Section 2 in particular.
I would say the WAAF force should not aid the Farshonian Armed Forces, as they ultimately cannot be trusted to keep the peace, nor can any nations force that is Farshonia.
The WAAF should be the only Peacekeeping armed force in Farshonia.

Yeah. I have though of it. It would be better to remove any participation of the Armed Forces of Fashonia to further pursue neutrality. In this case, Eurussia will strip this provision of the intervention.
Thank you Atletius for enlightening us.
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Post  Atletius Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:45 pm

Much better, though I would stress, like New Tarajan that ourselves and New Tarajan among others have been pushing for international action in particular WAAF intervention for some time, so the opening can be seen as quite un ingenuous
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Post  United States of Europe Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:57 pm

I am not a member of the Council of WA, however, as Secretary General of the regional organizations concerned, I have the duty to give advice and reassurance.

First, regional organizations armed (WAAF and WA-DSJ) will have the task of helping the security forces of Farshonia or secessionist states (forces that do not exist).
The organizations will be the only security forces responsible for maintaining law and order, security and stability.

Also,ll the nations that have already been deployed military contingents (New Tarajan, Dromoda, New Zealand, Atletius etc..) Have already expressed their support to the mission and openly cooperate with organizations, following the guidelines of the international intervention already in place.
I emphasize that many of these countries are also members of organizations.

So we fully support this bill, and reward for your approval as soon as possible, in order to ensure peace and security, and to bring relief to the people of Farshonia.
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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:02 pm

Atletius wrote:Much better, though I would stress, like New Tarajan that ourselves and New Tarajan among others have been pushing for international action in particular WAAF intervention for some time, so the opening can be seen as quite un ingenuous

Nevertheless, make your vote. Thanks.
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Post  Great Eurussia Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:05 pm

United States of Europe wrote:I am not a member of the Council of WA, however, as Secretary General of the regional organizations concerned, I have the duty to give advice and reassurance.

First, regional organizations armed (WAAF and WA-DSJ) will have the task of helping the security forces of Farshonia or secessionist states (forces that do not exist).
The organizations will be the only security forces responsible for maintaining law and order, security and stability.

Also,ll the nations that have already been deployed military contingents (New Tarajan, Dromoda, New Zealand, Atletius etc..) Have already expressed their support to the mission and openly cooperate with organizations, following the guidelines of the international intervention already in place.
I emphasize that many of these countries are also members of organizations.

So we fully support this bill, and reward for your approval as soon as possible, in order to ensure peace and security, and to bring relief to the people of Farshonia.

Well said. Thank you.
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Post  New Tarajan Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:15 pm

We greatly appreciate the new openings of Eurussia to the position we already expressed before.
We wish to point out that, for the same issue, also clause n.4 shall be modified accordingly.
However, one small note to our Eurussian colleague: please, let us manage this discussion, thank you.

I wish also to add a statement to Section 5, stating that also the WA Council should notify the effective achievement of a succesfull peace resolution in Farshonia.

And, finally, we wish to propose a small annex to the text, more related to the political situation.
We believe, indeed, that this way (connecting the intervention of WA Organizations in Farshonia with the political sphere) we would definitely avoid the escalation of a conflict or, worse, a complete disintegration of Farshonia.
Thus, the text of the Annex is as follows:

Art.1: The World Alliance, recognizing Farshonia, in all its parts, as subjected, under International Law and the fundamental principles of the WA Constitution, solely to the sovereign rights of its people, will thus not recognize any territorial acquisition made by a third power (defined as not part of the Farshonian Empire as previously to this crisis) in the Farshonian territory (defined as the territory hold by the Empire before the beginning of this crisis), no matter if done through the use of force or political and economical pressure and coercion.

Art. 2: In case of disintegration of the fundamental institutions in the Empire of Farshonia and in the secessionist territories, the World Alliance will be empowered of the management of the territories of the Empire of Farshonia, through the necessary WA Organizations, with the specific aim to create the ground for a rebirth of an independent government. The case for the implementation of this Article will be decided by the Council, which will manage it according to the WA Constitution, eventually after consultation with representatives of the Organizations on the field. In every case, the implementation of this Article will not undermine the application of Art. 1, which will keep its validity.

This Annex will finally avoid the risk of imperialistic adventures by third countries, giving also to Farshonia and the secessionists the guarantee that they are really the only ones entitled to decide about their future.
With all these modifications, New Tarajan would be ready to change its vote in favour of the Eurussian proposal.
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Post  Shirouma Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:39 pm

This annex to the proposal is a very good one New Tarajan, I'm also in favour if the the annex is added to the bill.
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Post  Great Eurussia Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:02 am

New Tarajan wrote:
Art.1: The World Alliance, recognizing Farshonia, in all its parts, as subjected, under International Law and the fundamental principles of the WA Constitution, solely to the sovereign rights of its people, will thus not recognize any territorial acquisition made by a third power (defined as not part of the Farshonian Empire as previously to this crisis) in the Farshonian territory (defined as the territory hold by the Empire before the beginning of this crisis), no matter if done through the use of force or political and economical pressure and coercion.

Art. 2: In case of disintegration of the fundamental institutions in the Empire of Farshonia and in the secessionist territories, the World Alliance will be empowered of the management of the territories of the Empire of Farshonia, through the necessary WA Organizations, with the specific aim to create the ground for a rebirth of an independent government. The case for the implementation of this Article will be decided by the Council, which will manage it according to the WA Constitution, eventually after consultation with representatives of the Organizations on the field. In every case, the implementation of this Article will not undermine the application of Art. 1, which will keep its validity.

Eurussia welcomes these set of good provisions for the intervention. We accept Article 1 and Article 2 which shall be included into the proposal. And accordingly, have been revised in the most direct and simplest terms possible and is added as Section No. 5. Thank you.


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Post  New Tarajan Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:11 am

Very well then.
About the other two modifications proposed?
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Post  Great Eurussia Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:13 am

New Tarajan wrote:Very well then.
About the other two modifications proposed?

What are you talking about? It has been added.
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Post  Great Eurussia Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:32 am

Shirouma wrote:This annex to the proposal is a very good one New Tarajan, I'm also in favour if the the annex is added to the bill.

Thank you. In this case, Shirouma is in favor?
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Post  New Tarajan Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:44 am

We are referring to the modification to Section 4 accordingly to the recent amendments (namely, to remove the reference to the Police Forces of Farshonia, in order to achieve a complete neutrality also for the DS&J) and to Section 5 (namely, adding that also the WA Council should notify the achievement of an effective peace resolution).
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Post  Atletius Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:46 am

Atletius is in FAVOUR of New Tarajans proposals.


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