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Post  Apepistan Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:28 pm

The Republic of Scottlands have declared that they are unwilling to peacefully discuss our differences, and have regarded our claims and facts as "accusations" and "lies".

I propose we keep the convoy-system and armed escorts up for the time being.

As for the elections, the United Kingdoms of Apepistan vote for:

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Post  Muchos Estados Unidos Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:50 pm

I want to join
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Post  Apepistan Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:04 am

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan propose that Muchos Estados Unidos will be in observer status until her diplomatic and inner conflicts are solved.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:05 am

Muchos Estados Unidos wrote:I want to join

The United States of Scouting is against membership for Muchos Estados Unidos.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:22 am

Apepistan wrote:The Republic of Scottlands have declared that they are unwilling to peacefully discuss our differences, and have regarded our claims and facts as "accusations" and "lies".

I propose we keep the convoy-system and armed escorts up for the time being.

As for the elections, the United Kingdoms of Apepistan vote for:

-United States of Scouting
-Hungaria Nova
-Xolox
-Shlask

I accept my nomination and vote for:

-United States of Scouting
-Apepistan
-Xolox
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Post  Xolox Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:42 am

UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Apepistan wrote:The Republic of Scottlands have declared that they are unwilling to peacefully discuss our differences, and have regarded our claims and facts as "accusations" and "lies".

I propose we keep the convoy-system and armed escorts up for the time being.

As for the elections, the United Kingdoms of Apepistan vote for:

-United States of Scouting
-Hungaria Nova
-Xolox
-Shlask

I accept my nomination and vote for:

-United States of Scouting
-Apepistan

You have 4 votes to use. Also, should we be making our votes public? We can choose someone to send telegrams to or something for some sense of anonymity.
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Post  Apepistan Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:46 am

Well since we already started with open votes, we might aswell go with that for the first time. Maybe next time we'll do an anon vote?

Also, can you vote for yourself, though?
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Post  Xolox Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:54 am

Apepistan wrote:Also, can you vote for yourself, though?

I would assume not.

My votes are as such( Edited after clarification of the rules ):
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Post  Xolox Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:55 am

Muchos Estados Unidos wrote:I want to join
Your request was actually accepted on page 3 of this thread.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:11 am

Xolox wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Apepistan wrote:The Republic of Scottlands have declared that they are unwilling to peacefully discuss our differences, and have regarded our claims and facts as "accusations" and "lies".

I propose we keep the convoy-system and armed escorts up for the time being.

As for the elections, the United Kingdoms of Apepistan vote for:

-United States of Scouting
-Hungaria Nova
-Xolox
-Shlask

I accept my nomination and vote for:

-United States of Scouting
-Apepistan

You have 4 votes to use. Also, should we be making our votes public? We can choose someone to send telegrams to or something for some sense of anonymity.

I'm going to abstain from my 4th vote. I also see no reason why you shouldn't be able to vote for yourself. In most elections, the candidate is allowed to vote for him/herself.
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Post  Xolox Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:49 am

UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote: I also see no reason why you shouldn't be able to vote for yourself. In most elections, the candidate is allowed to vote for him/herself.

Well, maybe we should have a vote on that. Or just let Azotakza decided. The result may affect my choices.
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Post  Azotakza Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:13 am

Well I guess you can vote for yourself
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:16 am

Azotakza wrote:Well I guess you can vote for yourself

Sweet, thanks for clarification!
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Post  Azotakza Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:20 am

but you still have to have someone vote for you. also i'm on the head of court right now so voting for me throws away votes
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Post  Xolox Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:21 am

Azotakza wrote:Well I guess you can vote for yourself

I have edited my vote to accommodate this(and the fact that the head of court is not being elected yet).
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:25 am

Azotakza wrote:but you still have to have someone vote for you. also i'm on the head of court right now so voting for me throws away votes

So the head of court is a separate election?
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Post  Xolox Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:26 am

UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Azotakza wrote:but you still have to have someone vote for you. also i'm on the head of court right now so voting for me throws away votes

So the head of court is a separate election?

He said every two elections.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:26 am

Xolox wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Azotakza wrote:but you still have to have someone vote for you. also i'm on the head of court right now so voting for me throws away votes

So the head of court is a separate election?

He said every two elections.

Thanks, must have missed that.
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Post  Azotakza Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:39 am

UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Xolox wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Azotakza wrote:but you still have to have someone vote for you. also i'm on the head of court right now so voting for me throws away votes

So the head of court is a separate election?

He said every two elections.

Thanks, must have missed that.

No you didn't miss out, the first one I just established myself as the head so we could get things working.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:44 am

Azotakza wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Xolox wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Azotakza wrote:but you still have to have someone vote for you. also i'm on the head of court right now so voting for me throws away votes

So the head of court is a separate election?

He said every two elections.

Thanks, must have missed that.

No you didn't miss out, the first one I just established myself as the head so we could get things working.

I meant missed where you said the Head of Court was elected every 2 elections
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Post  Azotakza Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:46 am

Ah, well now you know.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:56 am

I hereby motion to embargo [REDACTED] all member states of the WTU. After being accused of sinking a ZAR trade ship, not only did they fail to talk with us peacefully, they insulted us, embargoed us, and called us liars. After days of attempting to establish a sit down talk with them, they've repeatedly refused. In an effort to harm and disrupt their trade, I propose to make a ZAR-wide trade embargo [REDACTED] Hopefully this will make them come to the table and actually talk to us respectfully. Furthermore, I propose naval escorts continue for a period of 2 weeks after the initial embargo, if nothing happens, we can probably call them off after that time period has passed. [REDACTED]

Failure to run this route, which is the only route left open to us by the WTU, will allow other trade leagues and nations run over us. We need to show that we are not to be messed with and that we will hold nations accountable for their acts of war against our trade league.


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Post  England and Wales Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:58 pm

I vote for the following:
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Post  Apepistan Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:51 pm

UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:In an effort to harm and disrupt their trade, I propose to make a ZAR-wide trade embargo and blockade. [...] Furthermore, I propose naval escorts continue for a period of 2 weeks after the initial embargo, if nothing happens, we can probably call them off after that time period has passed.

Failure to run this route, which is the only route left open to us by the WTU, will allow other trade leagues and nations run over us. We need to show that we are not to be messed with and that we will hold nations accountable for their acts of war against our trade league.


Apepistan proposes that we only embargo the WTU members. A blockade is not needed, obviously, we don't want to escalate this situation into an open conflict.

However, Eurussia is an observer state to the ZAR aswell and member of the WTU. Apepistan also signed a separate trade agreement with Eurussia. Therefore we propose that the WTU embargo will not include Eurussia.

We agree with the 2 weeks for naval escort.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:45 pm

Apepistan wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:In an effort to harm and disrupt their trade, I propose to make a ZAR-wide trade embargo and blockade. [...] Furthermore, I propose naval escorts continue for a period of 2 weeks after the initial embargo, if nothing happens, we can probably call them off after that time period has passed.  

Failure to run this route, which is the only route left open to us by the WTU, will allow other trade leagues and nations run over us. We need to show that we are not to be messed with and that we will hold nations accountable for their acts of war against our trade league.


Apepistan proposes that we only embargo the WTU members. A blockade is not needed, obviously, we don't want to escalate this situation into an open conflict.

However, Eurussia is an observer state to the ZAR aswell and member of the WTU. Apepistan also signed a separate trade agreement with Eurussia. Therefore we propose that the WTU embargo will not include Eurussia.

We agree with the 2 weeks for naval escort.

I agree. I've redacted my original proposal.
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