Re: (Dismissed) WA Human Rights Act

Great Eurussia Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:39 pm

UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Xolox wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
Thank you. And as we have repeatedly stated, nothing will happen to any country if they chose not to follow this Act based on their culture or beliefs. The only problem will happen if we include a provision giving punishments to nations that will not follow this Act, which is not and will never be the case.

You keep saying that, but what is the point of passing the act if it has no power or effect?

I agree with Xolox, it's more like saying this law is: "WA Human Rights Suggestions"

This proposed Act will serve as standards and add dimension to our roleplay since this could be used only as basis for accusing another country of human rights violations without any legal liabilities but only add pressure to the concerned country.

Just like in real life where the Universal Declaration of Human Rights has been adopted yet is not observed by many nations.

UnitedStatesOfScouting Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:29 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Xolox wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
Thank you. And as we have repeatedly stated, nothing will happen to any country if they chose not to follow this Act based on their culture or beliefs. The only problem will happen if we include a provision giving punishments to nations that will not follow this Act, which is not and will never be the case.

You keep saying that, but what is the point of passing the act if it has no power or effect?

I agree with Xolox, it's more like saying this law is: "WA Human Rights Suggestions"

This proposed Act will serve as standards and add dimension to our roleplay since this could be used only as basis for accusing another country of human rights violations without any legal liabilities but only add pressure to the concerned country.
Just like in real life where the Universal Declaration of Human Rights has been adopted yet is not observed by many nations.

I suppose this makes sense. However, I cannot agree with Article 11. I feel that everyone should be responsible for supporting their own weight.

Great Eurussia Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:55 am

Great Eurussia wrote:

WA HUMAN RIGHTS ACT
Authored by the Empire of Great Eurussia

This is a purely roleplaying proposal.
Article 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
Article 2. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 3. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude.
Article 4. No one shall be subjected to cruel or degrading treatment or punishment.
Article 5. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law. Thus, all are equal before the law and are entitled to equal protection of the law.
Article 6. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair trial by an impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
Article 7. Everyone has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.
Article 8. Men and women of full age have the right to marry and to found a family.
Article 9. Everyone has the right to freedom of exercising religion.
Article 10. Everyone has the right to freedom of expressing opinion.
Article 11. Everyone has the right to work and to free choice of employment.
Article 12. Everyone has the right to education.
Article 13. All the provisions of this Act are encouraged to be observed universally by all nation states of the world as basis for determining the fundamental rights of all mankind. All the provisions of this Act are encouraged to be adopted into domestic laws, and if possible, international arrangements, by all nation states, without prejudice to their heritage.

NOTICE: A three (3) day debate and amendment period has been called. Please be guided.

While still under the period of amendments, the Eurussian Government initiated a full review of the provisions of the proposed WA Human Rights Act that resulted into additional provision, removal of critical provisions to a nation's sovereignty, and revisions of existing provisions to ensure the complete and consistent interpretation of the Act in the future.

Everyone is encouraged to share their views.

Kingdom of Scottlands Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:06 am

Scottish Republic is in favor

UnitedStatesOfScouting Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:55 am

Scouting is now FOR

Ebsotz Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:41 am

UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Ebsotz wrote:The COR came up with the verdict:

A 1. For.

A 2. Not sure.

A 3. Against.

A 4. For.

A 5. For.

A 6. Not Sure.

A 7. For.

A 8. For.

A 9. Not Sure.

A 10. Not Sure.

A 11. For.

A 12. For.

You're against Article 3. Everyone has the right to life and liberty.? Why?

Because prisoners don't deserve freedom, they broke the law!

UnitedStatesOfScouting Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:33 pm

Ebsotz wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:
Ebsotz wrote:The COR came up with the verdict:

A 1. For.

A 2. Not sure.

A 3. Against.

A 4. For.

A 5. For.

A 6. Not Sure.

A 7. For.

A 8. For.

A 9. Not Sure.

A 10. Not Sure.

A 11. For.

A 12. For.

You're against Article 3. Everyone has the right to life and liberty.? Why?

Because prisoners don't deserve freedom, they broke the law!

When someone breaks the laws and are prosecuted, their rights are taken as defined by your country's laws.

Serenarea Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:44 am

Serenarea ABSTAINS until it is to be reviewed.

DPRNK Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:01 am

Against

Great Eurussia Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:28 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:

WA HUMAN RIGHTS ACT
Authored by the Empire of Great Eurussia

This is a purely roleplaying proposal.

Article 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.

Article 2. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Article 3. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude.

Article 4. No one shall be subjected to cruel or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 5. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law. Thus, all are equal before the law and are entitled to equal protection of the law.

Article 6. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair trial by an impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 7. Everyone has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.

Article 8. Men and women of full age have the right to marry and to found a family.

Article 9. Everyone has the right to freedom of exercising religion.

Article 10. Everyone has the right to freedom of expressing opinion.

Article 11. Everyone has the right to work and to free choice of employment.

Article 12. Everyone has the right to education.

Article 13. All the provisions of this Act are encouraged to be observed universally by all nation states of the world as basis for determining the fundamental rights of all mankind. All the provisions of this Act are encouraged to be adopted into domestic laws, and if possible, international arrangements, by all nation states, without prejudice to their heritage.

NOTICE: A three (3) day debate and amendment period has been called. Please be guided.

Great Eurussia Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:02 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:

WA HUMAN RIGHTS ACT
Authored by the Empire of Great Eurussia

This is a purely roleplaying proposal.

Article 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.

Article 2. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Article 3. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude.

Article 4. No one shall be subjected to cruel or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 5. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law. Thus, all are equal before the law and are entitled to equal protection of the law.

Article 6. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair trial by an impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 7. Everyone has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.

Article 8. Men and women of full age have the right to marry and to found a family.

Article 9. Everyone has the right to freedom of exercising religion.

Article 10. Everyone has the right to freedom of expressing opinion.

Article 11. Everyone has the right to work and to free choice of employment.

Article 12. Everyone has the right to education.

Article 13. All the provisions of this Act are encouraged to be observed universally by all nation states of the world as basis for determining the fundamental rights of all mankind. All the provisions of this Act are encouraged to be adopted into domestic laws, and if possible, international arrangements, by all nation states, without prejudice to their heritage.

NOTICE: A three (3) day debate and amendment period has been called. Please be guided.

A vote is hereby called for two (2) days.

The STATUS OF VOTES are:

* Pending - (6) - China China, Eurussia, Chivalry, Articmainia, Zanland, Ebsotz

* Yes - (3) - Scottlands, Muchos Estados Unidos, Scouting

* No - (4) - Xolox, New Rhodinia, Snarfia, North Korreaa

* Abstain - (1) - Serenarea

* NOTE: Ten votes are required for the proposal to pass.

Great Eurussia Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:02 pm

Eurussia is in favor.

Xolox Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:13 pm

At the behest of our ally, Xolox has changed it's stance and is now in favor.

Ebsotz Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:18 pm

Due to desperate need of more stable Civil Rights, Ebsotz is now in favor.

The Kingdom of Ontenburg Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:32 am

This act will not do a thing, the anti freedom counties will just ignore these types of acts. Like they do in real life.

chivalry Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:39 am

is in favor.

Great Eurussia Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:17 am

With only 8 votes, dismissed.

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