Re: (Resolved) Ireland vs Ausavia/Ceveztria

Ireland Mon May 19, 2014 2:00 am

Europe and Asia wrote:Court Verdict:

Due to recent evidence provided by Shirouma, the court has reached a verdict. Ceveztria/Ausavia recently was given their third and final warning, which is an automatic banjection.

The court finds the defendant, Ceveztria/Ausavia guilty of violations of World Alliance Conduct Laws, specifically the "Three Strikes Law" implemented by New Zealand and Shirouma. The Court finds that per this law, Ceveztria/Ausavia is to be Banned and Ejected from the World Alliance, permanently. Any puppet nation of Ceveztria/Ausavia is banned from returning to the region forever, and the court hereby places a ban on reconsideration of returning to the region.

All of Ceveztria/Ausavia's territory on the Regional Map is to be removed by the map moderator, and those territories deemed void for newly arrived nations to claim. The Forum Moderator is hereby instructed to delete all accounts registered to Ceveztria/Ausavia permanently. This case is resolved.

Ireland thanks the court for its speedy verdict on this issue.

Great Eurussia Mon May 19, 2014 11:44 am

New Tarajan wrote:Due the fact, however, the Ceveztrian/Ausavian issue was involved in a RP, also comprising a Conference, and that the ban-eject of Ausavia could undermine, through an OOC issue, this same Conference (something which is not acceptable), I wish to ask to the Court, as country organizer of the said Conference, to rule about the future of this RP in the most equitable way.
Indeed, the Conference was going to decided to re-give to Ausavia independence under temporary Eurussian administration. But, with no Ausavia now in game, this is impossible, and Eurussia would find to have a strong RP advantage coming from a non-RP issue.
Thank you.

Eurussia has stated that it rejects the fake talks. And it seems that the said talks have gone nowhere when we exposed the real intentions of New Tarajan. Furthermore, Eurussia maintains absolute sovereignty over the Commonwealth of North Ausavia and South Ausavia as per the Treaty of Annexation with Ceveztria.

Lastly, in whatever angle you may look at it, OOC/RP, it was just lucky for Eurussia in having these coincidences. But to show our ungreediness on the matter, we will present to the Court the last TG sent to us by Ausavia.

Great Eurussia Mon May 19, 2014 12:12 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:
Objection sustained. Territories maintained by Eurussia per the Eurussian-Ceveztrian agreement can stay on the map. He is still to be banjected however. There will be no arguing his case.

Thank you. As per the order of the Court, the accounts of Ceveztria & Ausavia has been banned and ejected from the WA Forums and WA Region, accordingly.

And for us not be accused over and over and over again with greediness by the real greedy nations because of this objection, please allow Eurussia to show the last TG sent to us by Ausavia.

Spoiler:

Who is the nation again that kept on accusing us of lying and kept on spreading lies that we pressured Ceveztria and Ausavia to justify its fake peace talks? Now this is our answer. Thank you very much.

Ireland Mon May 19, 2014 7:14 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:

Objection sustained. Territories maintained by Eurussia per the Eurussian-Ceveztrian agreement can stay on the map. He is still to be banjected however. There will be no arguing his case.

I wish to object to this. If Ausavia/Ceveztria is no longer here then why is Eurussia being allowed to keep the land Ceveztria had.With Ceveztria gone there is no loner a legitimate country asking him to annex Ceveztria.

Europe and Asia Mon May 19, 2014 7:15 pm

Eurussia, Thanks you for that irrelevant and unnessecary bit of information. It's pertinence to the case was undeniably enormous.

Ireland, your objection is sustained. Eurussia, please provide a reason the treaty is still valid.

More, the court refuses to recognize the legitimacy of the telegram until the unedited version is released.

Great Eurussia Mon May 19, 2014 8:30 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:Eurussia, Thanks you for that irrelevant and unnessecary bit of information. It's pertinence to the case was undeniably enormous.

Ireland, your objection is sustained. Eurussia, please provide a reason the treaty is still valid.

More, the court refuses to recognize the legitimacy of the telegram until the unedited version is released.

With regards to the telegram, I have only removed some portions in the name of privacy since it mentions about where would Ceveztria go next. And since I have already emptied my Inbox so I can't show the unedited version anymore, I wish we could have a Trash Box in our TG. But anyways, allow me to try to remember his exact words, and compare it with the picture, here. I am apologizing in advance to Ceveztria if it won't be okay for him to publish his TG.

Pffft, I never intended on staying here for long. I found a better region which I will go to Nightrealms Region (not sure but try to trace where Ceveztria will move next) and since you're the only one I trusted in this region I put up a small plan which went successfully, and that was providing you with a farewell gift of land.

And about the validity of my Treaty with Ceveztria/Ausavia, I have very simple arguments on it, since this case is OOC, yet you're asking me an IC matter, I would prefer to share my stance through OOC and IC too, to wrap these things up, once and for all, and move on.

OOC: By virtue of the request submitted by Ceveztria on the Map Claims thread, here, https://worldalliance.forumotion.co.uk/t439p450-world-alliance-map-claims#19214, which I have noted as the Map Admin, from that moment until the map update, the lands are now under the ownership of Eurussia. And was never retracted nor denied by Ceveztria until his conviction, and a proof to that is his last TG to me, which I have shown you, to show that it was voluntary and I never made any pressure, just like what those nations are trying to create a story with, the last TG he made, before I banjected him.

IC: Allow Eurussia to define what is annexation first, which is the permanent incorporation of some territorial entity into another geo-political entity (Wikipedia), and in this case, it is the incorporation of Ceveztria's political territory into the Eurussian Empire, and this was given effect by the signing of our Treaty of Annexation. Here,

https://worldalliance.forumotion.co.uk/t372p975-world-alliance-international-news-network#19158

TREATY OF ANNEXATION

1) Ceveztria revokes its Treaty of Friendship with Eurussia.
2) Ceveztria relinquishes its sovereignty and territories to Eurussia.
3) Ceveztria recognizes the absolute authority of the Emperor of Eurussia.
4) Ceveztria recognizes the absolute authority of the Eurussian Government.
5) Ceveztria recognizes that it shall become an inherent territory of Eurussia.

And since then, the entire sovereignty and nationality of Ceveztria have been dissolved and non-existing as it becomes an integral territory of the Eurussian Empire. As a matter of fact, it is our government who decided the structure of administration that is why the former President of Ceveztria, Joe Biden, has become the Governor General acting as the representative of the Emperor to the two territories which was named as Commonwealth of North Ausavia and South Ausavia. It is in our full discretion on how to administer the entirety of our disaster stricken new territories, with of course, support of the international community. And all efforts are on-going. And inquiring about the validity of the Treaty? The discretion now to make these two commonwealths independence rest solely in the Eurussian Government, as stipulated in Articles 3,4,5 of the Treaty. The Article 2 speaks for itself, and Article 1 which means our Treaty of Friendship which recognizes each others' sovereignty has been revoked since then because Ceveztria have lost its independence, sovereignty, and nationality upon annexation. And asking if the Treaty is valid? Yes, because Eurussia wishes to. And No, because Eurussia wishes to, as it enjoys the right of to exercise sovereignty.

[But outside OOC/IC, both of us agreed that this will be temporary until the RP is ripe for independence, which was confirmed by myself and as well as Ceveztria. Personally, I shouldn't have joined and agreed with his RP if this how will it end only. He really had a perfect plan for his RP, the format of new government, infrastructure projects, the Hyatt Hotel is part of it, check my news on it, and he wanted to look like Dubai, see my news about the Dubai Mall. I just feel sad that this is how it ended :-/ Anyways, I have made our stand and all my arguments, and I am extremely confident that they can withstand all scrutiny.]

Europe and Asia Tue May 20, 2014 4:12 am

Due to you deleting the telegram, it is no longer applicable for evidence.

OOC: Busy, but I'll post the full court position later.

Great Eurussia Tue May 20, 2014 9:42 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:Due to you deleting the telegram, it is no longer applicable for evidence.

OOC: Busy, but I'll post the full court position later.

Oh too bad, anyways, sorry about that :-)

Ireland Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:52 am

Europe and Asia wrote:Due to you deleting the telegram, it is no longer applicable for evidence.

OOC: Busy, but I'll post the full court position later.

Should this case be counted as resolved?

Great Eurussia Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:56 am

Ireland wrote:
Europe and Asia wrote:Due to you deleting the telegram, it is no longer applicable for evidence.

OOC: Busy, but I'll post the full court position later.
Should this case be counted as resolved?

I think so? Am I correct Eurasia?
Shall I lock this thread now?

Europe and Asia Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:50 am

Not yet. It's tied to the other case.

Great Eurussia Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:41 am

Europe and Asia wrote:Not yet. It's tied to the other case.

???

Ireland Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:44 am

Ireland wrote:
Europe and Asia wrote:Due to you deleting the telegram, it is no longer applicable for evidence.

OOC: Busy, but I'll post the full court position later.
Should this case be counted as resolved?

What about now?

Europe and Asia Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:48 am

Yes, can you change it to "resolved?" Consider the verdict here to be the same as in the other cae.

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(Resolved) Ireland vs Ausavia/Ceveztria