Re: Konzbator Peace Summit

Shockwave Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:31 pm

(Jesocasha sighs) I don't see how any treaty will do us good here and solve our differences, they bind us into submission. Until I see that people are getting along with each other specifically New Korreaa and Arite then maybe....just maybe will I sign any peace of paper handed to me.

Apepistan Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:32 pm

Ebsotz wrote:*Royal Guard aims Desert Eagle at Leem*

"I suggest you select your next words very carefully. You have disgraced Artite, an ally, I simply just can't let you do that. Your covering it all up Leem. The propaganda. I've seen all of the posters in Pyongsong, Pyongyang, Haeju, etc. If you want peace with the rest of the world, you might as well think of something fast. And Imperialism: Its not that bad! Why don't YOU try it? The only thing imperialist's do is either 1. Invade land. 2. Make bada** laws. If anyone here doesn't want to solve this problem at hand, that is their issue, Leem. You can't force everyone to sign. We actually have a right here."

*Looks at Lord Muhtar Tenger*

"C'mon, what are we waiting for? We have a treaty to sign!"

*Nekolai clicks his pen in impatience*

OOC: First of all: Foreign military, while allowed as bodyguards, are NOT allowed in the meeting room. I thought this was obvious - diplomatical meetings happen unarmed, protection is ensured from outside the conference room.

Second: Since this might aswell be my fault for not stating what I thought to be obvious, we might go with this action roleplay-wise, without retconning the guard aiming his weapon, if you wish so. Please pick which solution you prefer, Ebsotz; I will respond accordingly ICly. Note that the Royal-Guard would be almost instantly killed by security.

The Holy Empire of Artite Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:46 am

"Now, President Leem these are my terms for your immediate surrender.

1)All occupied land will remain under control of the occupiers, and their respective nations control.
2)The New Korrean military is disarmed and dismantled, effective immediately
3)New Korrea forfeits their WASC seat and retracts all cases against Artite and her allies.
4)President Leem and his government go into exile, never to return to New Korrea again.

Gentle please add, flesh it out a bit. But these are the rudimentary terms of the Korrean surrender"

Emperor George pulled out a cigar and lit it, obviously he was growing tired of the summit and the disillusioned President Leem, thinking he can still win the war.

Ebsotz Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:47 am

Apepistan wrote:
Ebsotz wrote:*Royal Guard aims Desert Eagle at Leem*

"I suggest you select your next words very carefully. You have disgraced Artite, an ally, I simply just can't let you do that. Your covering it all up Leem. The propaganda. I've seen all of the posters in Pyongsong, Pyongyang, Haeju, etc. If you want peace with the rest of the world, you might as well think of something fast. And Imperialism: Its not that bad! Why don't YOU try it? The only thing imperialist's do is either 1. Invade land. 2. Make bada** laws. If anyone here doesn't want to solve this problem at hand, that is their issue, Leem. You can't force everyone to sign. We actually have a right here."

*Looks at Lord Muhtar Tenger*

"C'mon, what are we waiting for? We have a treaty to sign!"

*Nekolai clicks his pen in impatience*

OOC: First of all: Foreign military, while allowed as bodyguards, are NOT allowed in the meeting room. I thought this was obvious - diplomatical meetings happen unarmed, protection is ensured from outside the conference room.

Second: Since this might aswell be my fault for not stating what I thought to be obvious, we might go with this action roleplay-wise, without retconning the guard aiming his weapon, if you wish so. Please pick which solution you prefer, Ebsotz; I will respond accordingly ICly. Note that the Royal-Guard would be almost instantly killed by security.

My apologies. I guess I haven't been to too many peace summits Wink

Ebsotz Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:00 am

*Nekolai chuckles*

"Well, my friend, that action your Imperial Guardsmen did: Lets just say it was not necessary...since when did your guard bust into this room? A minute ago you wanted to slit President Leems throat. I specifically ordered my guard not to come into the room, but look at that! Looks like he disobeyed me."

*Royal Guard shakes hands with the Imperial Guardmen*

*An Aid tells Nekolai the news*

"WHAT??!?! They ALL escaped?? But...I hung them in chains a long time ago..."

*Nekolai calls his Supreme General*

"Yes, your in charge of getting them back into prison. We can't let them get to Krizanic! And yes, you have full permission to hang them if you catch them. Good bye. Tschuss."

*Nekolai stands up*

"Well, a terrorist group escaped, and is ravaging Ebsotz. So don't be surprised if I am on high alert.."

Apepistan Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:33 am

OOC: Okay, for the sake of logic and reason, please scrap and void all this guardsmen lines. No foreign military is allowed in the conference hall. That's it.

Ebsotz Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:46 am

Fine. But you sorta have to allow an aid to come in is something catastrophic happens, which, in this case, it did (The breakout)

Xolox Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:08 am

Princess Marilyn Targaryen

I stated my only terms on the enemies' surrender twice, and the only one who thought to include them in any discussion was Emperor George, and I appreciate him for that. However, since no other dignitary has attempted to "flesh out" the treaty, as suggested by the Emperor, I will take this upon myself. I have also received a map from my father, detailing the lands he believes should be awarded to the victorious nations.

The Map:

Here is the treaty I have drawn up for your respective approvals.

The Treaty of Konzbator

•The New Korrean government must disband their military for the next 100 years. They are not allowed to institute self defense force, but may request troops from a foreign power to patrol their lands.
•The New Korrean government will revoke their country's membership from the World Alliance Security Council. They may not pursue their country's former seat for another (real life) six months.
•The Grand Empire of Xolox, The Holy Empire of Artite, The United Socialist States of Zanland, and The Empire of Wirbanskia will be defined as the aggressors.
•New Korrea and the listed aggressor nations vow not to declare war on each other for the next 250 years.
•New Korrea agrees to relinquish the lands specified above to the control of the aggressors.
•The New Korrean government agrees to abolish the practice of executing of its own innocent citizens.

I will warn you, President Leem, I will not tolerate another objection from you. The terms can only go out of your country's favor from here, assuming you want my signature.

As for you, Emperor Nekolai, I suggest you leave this summit. All you have managed to accomplish is to display your nation's indecisiveness and inability to function as a world power. You joined a war you had no place in, first saying you would support the aggressors, then deciding to assist in New Korrea's defence, and now you are threatening their invasion? Ebsotzian ineptitude is not uncommon, apparantly, if your prison guards cannot even keep your prisoners in check. Your country needs you more than this summit does, however little you may be able to help it.

Ebsotz Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:25 am

*Nekolai looks at her Majesty with a "twisted" face*

"My god. You have no idea what you are getting into. Have I ever insulted your Grand Empire? NO! Why would I? And why would you? The Terrorist group in Ebsotz was around since the birth of my empire. And they weren't in the a 'prison'. They were locked up, with chains around each necks, hands, and their legs tied. We are currently investigating who they broke out. My laws and your laws are very different. Propaganda is illegal. For you its not. I don't care. And I am not clumsy. Why don't we just resolve things like civilized people? Instead of creating more rising tensions?"

*Nekolai raises a brow*

Ebsotz Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:26 am

And I came to this summit before you did.

Shockwave Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:10 am

*Jesocasha turns her head towards Nikolai* Emperor Nikolai, You and your country , as stated above, join this war on no grounds, you entered this summit on no grounds and you continue to be a nuisance to the nations in this summit. If you had any reason to join the war besides your obvious conflicting emotions towards the New Korreaan government then please state them, or there's the door. (Jesocasha leans back in her chair awaiting a response)

Ebsotz Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:58 am

*Nekolai looks in shock*

"Perhaps you haven't noticed: I was one of the first to be invited, so...you might as well stop insulting me. The Golden Rule plays a big-role in my country, as well as honesty. I joined Koreas side, but I quickly changed my mindset. So technically I was in the war."

Zanland Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:22 am

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*Premier Petrenko enters the negotiations*
My apologies for the extreme lateness, I support Emperor Georges surrender terms in this. They seem agreeable do they not? Lets stop behaving so aggressive towards Emperor Nekolai. This is a peace summit yes? Enough of the childlike behavior of insulting one another and lets get this negotiation onward.

DPRNK Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:45 pm

The Holy Empire of Artite wrote:"Now, President Leem these are my terms for your immediate surrender.

1)All occupied land will remain under control of the occupiers, and their respective nations control.
2)The New Korrean military is disarmed and dismantled, effective immediately
3)New Korrea forfeits their WASC seat and retracts all cases against Artite and her allies.
4)President Leem and his government go into exile, never to return to New Korrea again.

Gentle please add, flesh it out a bit. But these are the rudimentary terms of the Korrean surrender"

Emperor George pulled out a cigar and lit it, obviously he was growing tired of the summit and the disillusioned President Leem, thinking he can still win the war.

1) NO
2) How can we protect our nation from aggressors like you without a military? We already gave up on that on Eurussia's peace treaty and opted for self defense force only.
3) NO
4) President Leem and my government is the only person to govern the Republic of New Korrea and no one else.

If you think you can fool me no. What is the difference if I agree on these or not? Besides we saw that all of you want nothing but my lands. So this is just pure imperialism and not your foolish liberation no no no.

DPRNK Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:51 pm

Xolox wrote:
Princess Marilyn Targaryen

I stated my only terms on the enemies' surrender twice, and the only one who thought to include them in any discussion was Emperor George, and I appreciate him for that. However, since no other dignitary has attempted to "flesh out" the treaty, as suggested by the Emperor, I will take this upon myself. I have also received a map from my father, detailing the lands he believes should be awarded to the victorious nations.

The Map:

Here is the treaty I have drawn up for your respective approvals.

The Treaty of Konzbator

•The New Korrean government must disband their military for the next 100 years. They are not allowed to institute self defense force, but may request troops from a foreign power to patrol their lands.
•The New Korrean government will revoke their country's membership from the World Alliance Security Council. They may not pursue their country's former seat for another (real life) six months.
•The Grand Empire of Xolox, The Holy Empire of Artite, The United Socialist States of Zanland, and The Empire of Wirbanskia will be defined as the aggressors.
•New Korrea and the listed aggressor nations vow not to declare war on each other for the next 250 years.
•New Korrea agrees to relinquish the lands specified above to the control of the aggressors.
•The New Korrean government agrees to abolish the practice of executing of its own innocent citizens.

I will warn you, President Leem, I will not tolerate another objection from you. The terms can only go out of your country's favor from here, assuming you want my signature.

As for you, Emperor Nekolai, I suggest you leave this summit. All you have managed to accomplish is to display your nation's indecisiveness and inability to function as a world power. You joined a war you had no place in, first saying you would support the aggressors, then deciding to assist in New Korrea's defence, and now you are threatening their invasion? Ebsotzian ineptitude is not uncommon, apparantly, if your prison guards cannot even keep your prisoners in check. Your country needs you more than this summit does, however little you may be able to help it.

1) I already said we contented with self defense force.
2) No. If you can't get a seat in WASC do not blame me but blame yourself.
3) No need to name it, you are obviously aggressors.
4) It should be forever Don't you think?
5) No
6) We do not execute our citizens but the imperialists are the one killing our people because of this imperialist wars.

Show me much acceptable treaty. Do not fool me any more. It is now obvious that you just want my lands And this is just imperialism. I cannot wait to see your guilty verdicts in court. You do not want to accept arbitration in court because you are afraid of being given a guilty verdict which can last forever. I am greatful because you say you are aggressors.

Xolox Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:30 pm

Princess Marilyn Targaryen

Those are my terms. If they will not be accepted, I have no further use in this summit and will be taking my leave. Enjoy your occupation.

DPRNK Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:40 pm

Xolox wrote:
Princess Marilyn Targaryen

Those are my terms. If they will not be accepted, I have no further use in this summit and will be taking my leave. Enjoy your occupation.

Proof of imperialism and colonialism.

Muchos Estados Unidos Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:00 pm

I appeal to the attackers of MEU, Xolox, Zanland, Chackle, Wirbanskia to stop the war and talk about peace. I have ordered my government to withdraw objection of Xolox to WASC so we can achieve peace. Let us sign a Peace treaty, I promise not to make any cases against any of you. Just leave MEU alone and allow us to live in peace.

The Holy Empire of Artite Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:14 pm

President Leem, please...either way if you return to your country or not it will still be under the control of our forces. You do not understand how this works, we have your country conquered. You did not fight with your self defense force like you said you would. You published false information depicting graphic images of civilians in mass graves and being executed at point blank range. You are in no position to say no, and the process for your court proceedings is taking so long that we may never get a verdict. We are not scared to accept arbitration, we just don't care. Why is that you are ignoring the case put forth by Xolox against you? Are you scared?

Great Eurussia Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:29 pm

Muchos Estados Unidos wrote:I appeal to the attackers of MEU, Xolox, Zanland, Chackle, Wirbanskia to stop the war and talk about peace. I have ordered my government to withdraw objection of Xolox to WASC so we can achieve peace. Let us sign a Peace treaty, I promise not to make any cases against any of you. Just leave MEU alone and allow us to live in peace.

Our government seconds the motion of the MEU. We see no apparent and justifiable reasons for continued aggression against MEU and we do hope both sides will be able to settle differences within this hall to avoid any form of embarrassment on each other if nothing is achieved here and continued tensions would still transpire outside the summit.

We do also hope that tensions will also be resolved in the case of New Korrea. We call on both sides to calm down and hopefully negotiate peacefully to reach a compromise. And since we are in deep and grave disappointment on the flow of these negotiations, we will be pleased if both sides would consider our suggestions below:

New Korrea - Artite, Xolox, Wirbanskia, Zanland, Chackle

* Both sides will commit no more aggression against each other except on self defense
* Both sides will exercise self-restraint by avoiding to issue any statements of hatred
* NK commits not to object to Artite and Xolox's current bid to join WASC
* Artite, Xolox, Wirbanskia, Zanland, Chackle commits to aid NK in rebuilding affected areas
* Both sides commit to withdraw any pending cases and commits not to file any cases against each other regarding the most recent tensions

Or if territory is an issue...
* NK will allow Artite to retain control over Principality of Korrea-Artite for fifty years (equivalent to 1 month RL)
* Artite commits to pay NK 50% of the total income every year of Principality of Korrea-Artite for fifty years (equivalent to 1 month RL)
* NK will allow Xolox to retain control over a certain portion of NK for fifty years (equivalent to 1 month RL)
* Xolox commits to pay NK 50% of the total income every year of the concerned portion of NK for fifty years (equivalent to 1 month RL)

Or if WASC is an issue...
* NK and Wirbanskia will give up WASC seats and everyone commits not to join the WASC anytime in the future unless otherwise modified and mutually agreed in the future

MEU - Xolox, Wirbanskia, Zanland, Chackle

* Both sides will commit no more aggression against each other except on self defense
* Both sides will exercise self-restraint by avoiding to issue any statements of hatred
* MEU commits not to object to Xolox's current bid to join the WASC
* Xolox, Wirbanskia, Zanland, Chackle commits to aid MEU in rebuilding affected areas
* Both sides commit to withdraw any pending cases and commits not to file any cases against each other regarding the most recent tensions

We wish to hear your views.

The Holy Empire of Artite Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:36 pm

Why would the Empire give up land that our soldiers died trying to get just so we can retain the Principality of Korreaa-Artite? No I agree with Xolox's treaty and his treaty alone. New Korrea has the option to either take it or leave it. His choice, otherwise this war will go on for ever and even though I know and my allies know we are the victors and he is the whipped child who lost his pacifier.

Great Eurussia Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:00 pm

The Holy Empire of Artite wrote:Why would the Empire give up land that our soldiers died trying to get just so we can retain the Principality of Korreaa-Artite? No I agree with Xolox's treaty and his treaty alone. New Korrea has the option to either take it or leave it. His choice, otherwise this war will go on for ever and even though I know and my allies know we are the victors and he is the whipped child who lost his pacifier.

We do not mean in anyway to defend New Korrea but we are here to make both sides meet half way. Let us admit the reality that unless New Korrea recognizes your illegal occupation on his own lands, that is the only way you can legally, without any dispute, to exercise sovereignty over those lands you say, you 'conquered' with the blood of your soldiers. And since New Korrea continue to insist on not giving up those lands, his country retains all the rights and sovereignty over those lands.

We do not condone expansionism in today's modern world and we hope that the people of Artite will not be ashamed if they continue to insist on exercising controls over the lands that they themselves know are not theirs. Artite may exercise de facto control over those lands but that will haunt your country forever and tensions will never cease to exist. As we have stated to you before, we fear of these cases whether you care or not as any verdict of it will be a shame to our friends in Artite, whether they accept it or not.

Your Majesty, pardon me and with all due respect, seeing on how Artite is insisting to retain controls over the lands of New Korrea, we are inclined to believe what New Korrea has been saying to us from the beginning. And that is Artite could just be using its anger towards the leadership of New Korrea to invade the country and get those lands. If that is not true, than what is Your Majesty?

The Holy Empire of Artite Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:45 pm

The only difference between Eurussia and Artite my friend is I take land with the end of a gun you take land with the end of a pen. Our ways of obtaining land are quite different. I am an Empire, I am Imperialistic, it is in the name to try and deny it would be foolish. Why does New Korrea claim that my land is illegal when he freely gives away land to Eurussia, Snarfia, and Russia? He forsakes the sovereignty of his people in those three territories, yet he makes claims that Artite is illegal occupying his land. If you can explain to me how this is I would be able to sleep better at night.

Ebsotz Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:49 pm

Ebsotz approves of the MEU Treaty. We want the MEU in peace, but we will not deploy anymore troops.

The Holy Empire of Artite Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:20 am

I wish that Emperor Nikolai would see to reason and just leave this summit. It does not pertain to him. he butted his nose into something that is not his businesses any more. He pulled out the moment the tip of his nose was sliced off. I ask that Emperor Nekolai leaves now. Your pointless statements and rather abrupt actions and reactions are only making matters worse.

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