Re: SOWESO Council Session

Federation of Antanares Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:06 am

Antanares support the mediation of the SOWESO, because the territory of Regornia is just under my nation. Every kind of action which could endangered to the interests and the home safety of the Federation will be considered an act of hostility. We support the proposal of an embargo.

Great Eurussia Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:16 am

Texania wrote:As of now, we are only blockading the rebellious province. We propose that an embargo be placed on the province.

As requested by Texania, Eurussia will also impose an embargo.

Atletius Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:19 am

SOWESO has a duty to promote and protect peace in the region, so Altetius is in favour of SOWESO mediating.

Aloia Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:51 am

Aloia agrees with Atletius. Eurussia may be against SOWESO intervention in Regornia, but we respectfully feel that their opinion on the matter has less value than nations whose homelands are near Regornia. If Regornia seeks to destabilize our region and cause problems for our homelands, we must be allowed to deal with them.

Great Eurussia Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:09 pm

Aloia wrote:Aloia agrees with Atletius. Eurussia may be against SOWESO intervention in Regornia, but we respectfully feel that their opinion on the matter has less value than nations whose homelands are near Regornia. If Regornia seeks to destabilize our region and cause problems for our homelands, we must be allowed to deal with them.

Eurussia believes that Aloia has missed our point, obviously.

Now that Texania has seeked for SOWESO assistance via an embargo, there is no reason for us to oppose any SOWESO-backed mediation intervention even though Texania is not a member state. Nevertheless, we hope for the swift restoration of peace in Regornia through diplomacy, or through the use of force, if necessary.

Atletius Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:01 pm

SOWESO should not enforce or endorse trade embargoes upon Regornia, like some seem to be suggesting/saying. For the time being SOWESO's only actions should be diplomatic ones like hosting negotiations and peace talks.

Great Eurussia Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:47 pm

Atletius wrote:SOWESO should not enforce or endorse trade embargoes upon Regornia, like some seem to be suggesting/saying. For the time being SOWESO's only actions should be diplomatic ones like hosting negotiations and peace talks.

Eurussia maintains its support for SOWESO brokered mediation intervention.

New Tarajan Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:33 pm

Atletius wrote:SOWESO should not enforce or endorse trade embargoes upon Regornia, like some seem to be suggesting/saying. For the time being SOWESO's only actions should be diplomatic ones like hosting negotiations and peace talks.

We understand and appreciate your position, Atletius.
However, the problem here is that the Regornian regime could easily find a way to acquire new weapons, and this would surely decrease their disposability to mediate. Enforcing an embargo would be the best option to make pressure on Regornia and make them understand that we are not joking, and that we will do everything to protect the peace and stability of the continent.

Great Eurussia Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:27 pm

New Tarajan wrote:
Atletius wrote:SOWESO should not enforce or endorse trade embargoes upon Regornia, like some seem to be suggesting/saying. For the time being SOWESO's only actions should be diplomatic ones like hosting negotiations and peace talks.

We understand and appreciate your position, Atletius.
However, the problem here is that the Regornian regime could easily find a way to acquire new weapons, and this would surely decrease their disposability to mediate. Enforcing an embargo would be the best option to make pressure on Regornia and make them understand that we are not joking, and that we will do everything to protect the peace and stability of the continent.

We agree. Eurussia wil maintain its embargo. In fact, we in the continent should make a common stand that we uphold the rule of law and will not tolerate any illegal secession in the continent that might disrupt peace. And imposing an embargo by countries in Mnemosyne will surely cripple Regornia's local economy since we are the nearest nations to trade with. This will also show that we take the crisis seriously especially us that our Duchy of Orenburg is just there.

Atletius Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:01 am

Crippling the small nations economy, while it may reduce the arms the nations holds, it will also cause food shortages medical supply shortages etc. The nation is too small the fully provide for its own populace. It relies upon foriegn imports. The blockade and embargo will likely cause more deaths than it will save in this way.

Even if the regime in Regornia get more arms, they will still not be a match in size, technology or military prowess to any of our militaries.

Atletius reccomends we wait until all diplomatic options are exhausted before taking any actions like blockades and embargoes.

Texania Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:25 am

Atletius wrote:Crippling the small nations economy, while it may reduce the arms the nations holds, it will also cause food shortages medical supply shortages etc. The nation is too small the fully provide for its own populace. It relies upon foriegn imports. The blockade and embargo will likely cause more deaths than it will save in this way.

Even if the regime in Regornia get more arms, they will still not be a match in size, technology or military prowess to any of our militaries.

Atletius reccomends we wait until all diplomatic options are exhausted before taking any actions like blockades and embargoes.

The nation captured 20 modern destroyers. I am 100% sure that they have a well equipped military from all the supplies they captured.

Atletius Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:49 am

OOC that's somewhat unrealistic RP. Considering the Royal Navy of the UK has less than that IRL. Seriously having a tiny nation like Regornia have that many despite hers is unrealistic

Texania Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:02 am

Atletius wrote:OOC that's somewhat unrealistic RP. Considering the Royal Navy of the UK has less than that IRL. Seriously having a tiny nation like Regornia have that many despite hers is unrealistic

OOC: they captured 30% of our total military.my population is 3x GB's

% of budget spent on military:

Uk:2.5%

Texania:40%

IC: We will continue enforcing the blockade, as they have not only seceded without any right to, but have also killed over 2,000 people in the process.

Atletius Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:21 am

OOC my point still stands. How could they take 30% of your navy when their landmass and presumably population is a small fraction if your total. It's like Northern Ireland suddenly taking 30% of the Uks fleet. Really unrealistic.

IC
By enforcing the blockade, you are worsening the chances of a peaceful resolution, one that benefits all parties and also causing the deaths of your own people. Many of whom had nothing to do with the regime change,

Texania Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:23 am

Lets take the argument here:
https://worldalliance.forumotion.co.uk/t413p45-place-to-fight

Aloia Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:18 am

Aloia strongly supports our friends in Atletius. A conference would take weeks, maybe even months. Every day that passes while that blockade is in place is a day where their economy crashes even more and more children starve while we talk in committee. We must not support blockades on this small nation. Aloia will be sending aid workers into Regornia to make sure their children are well-fed and healthy and we will be working full-boar to try to bring Regornia's leaders to a conference to discuss the future of the territory.

New Tarajan Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:48 am

Aloia wrote:Aloia strongly supports our friends in Atletius. A conference would take weeks, maybe even months. Every day that passes while that blockade is in place is a day where their economy crashes even more and more children starve while we talk in committee. We must not support blockades on this small nation. Aloia will be sending aid workers into Regornia to make sure their children are well-fed and healthy and we will be working full-boar to try to bring Regornia's leaders to a conference to discuss the future of the territory.

A possible solution would be to allow the WAHO (or the SOWESO in its place) to give Regornia supplies in medicines and foods necessary for the population. At the same time, we would keep the embargo. This way, the population would not suffer seriously, while the main goal of the embargo would be still available. Moreover, we will proceed with a diplomatic action contemporarily.

Great Eurussia Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:42 am

New Tarajan wrote:
Aloia wrote:Aloia strongly supports our friends in Atletius. A conference would take weeks, maybe even months. Every day that passes while that blockade is in place is a day where their economy crashes even more and more children starve while we talk in committee. We must not support blockades on this small nation. Aloia will be sending aid workers into Regornia to make sure their children are well-fed and healthy and we will be working full-boar to try to bring Regornia's leaders to a conference to discuss the future of the territory.

A possible solution would be to allow the WAHO (or the SOWESO in its place) to give Regornia supplies in medicines and foods necessary for the population. At the same time, we would keep the embargo. This way, the population would not suffer seriously, while the main goal of the embargo would be still available. Moreover, we will proceed with a diplomatic action contemporarily.

It will be dangerous for SOWESO teams to be deployed in Regornia as the secessionists perfectly knows the position of SOWESO nations, hence the body should focus on talks. It is always the best and neutral idea to call for WAHO & WAAF Intervention jointly to provide humanitarian aid while having neutral security for the WAHO Aid workers.

If our colleagues are in favor, Eurussia will submit a request to the WA Council.

Atletius Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:16 pm

A neutral WAAF and WAHO intervention can, Must take place only after the lifting of the blockade on Regornia. These are our conditions. The blockade would impede aid efforts.

Great Eurussia Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:19 pm

Atletius wrote:A neutral WAAF and WAHO intervention can, Must take place only after the lifting of the blockade on Regornia. These are our conditions. The blockade would impede aid efforts.

Since WAAF & WAHO are neutral international organizations of the WA Government, there is nothing that could impede their aid efforts. And doing so would be a breach of international law. Nevertheless, Eurussia will maintain its embargo, naval and airspace blockade against the Texanian Territory of Regornia as our commitment to the Republic of Texania.

Atletius Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:28 pm

In that case Atletius will not join the blockade and embargo, allowing ships through our territorial waters to reach Regornia. However he will monitor the ships passing through, and inspect them for armaments.

Great Eurussia Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:53 pm

Atletius wrote:In that case Atletius will not join the blockade and embargo, allowing ships through our territorial waters to reach Regornia. However he will monitor the ships passing through, and inspect them for armaments.

Eurussia welcomes the decision of Atletius to inspect ships. However, we hope that its government will also reconsider imposing a trade embargo as with us, Antanares and New Tarajan as it is a great measure to pressure the secessionists economically and to make civilians rise up against the secessionist government. This will help Texania legitimize its actions to regain back its territory.

Furthermore, as we imposed a naval blockade via our coast guard together with Texania and Antanares, we hope Atletius will do the same as to stop all inbound and outbound ships to Regornia.

We have also imposed an airspace blockade over our Duchy of Orenburg (technically a no fly zone for all Regornia planes and all inbound planes to prevent outside support and escape from Regornia. We hope Atletius and Antanares will also implement such to totally isolate Regornia from the rest of the world.

Eurussia, Antanares, and Atletius are in the perfect position to legally stop foreign support to Regornia and force the secessionist government into the SOWESO negotiating table. Let us have continued and coordinated efforts to preserve the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the Republic of Texania.

After these, we can now seek for WA Council intervention.

New Tarajan Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:43 pm

I believe the intervention of the WA Council must be done only after the stabilization of the situation on the field. Right now, it's too unstable for an effective intervention.

Arveyres Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:13 am

The RS Arveyres will not be intervening in any way unless provoked. We will have no further input to the SOWESO.

Federation of Antanares Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:50 am

The Federation of Antanares will continue to strongly condemn the illegal secession of Regornia from Texania, also so near our border. It's an illegal act, took by a group of terrorists. An action that only destabilize the region and the continent. For these reasons we will continue to support the embargo and the no-fly zone, because is necessary eliminate this threat now.

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