(Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
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Atletius
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Trapatrical
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
The Moon is not of any particular nation, but it belongs to all of us.
So voting against the proposal.
So voting against the proposal.
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
I don't think you understand what this project is about.United States of Europe wrote:The Moon is not of any particular nation, but it belongs to all of us.
So voting against the proposal.
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We know that your interests expansion of renewable energies are fully justifiable.Stirva wrote:I don't think you understand what this project is about.United States of Europe wrote:The Moon is not of any particular nation, but it belongs to all of us.
So voting against the proposal.
But the fact remains that the Moon is a pratrimonio of all, and its massive exploitation by a small group of nations can not be absolutely justified.
A compromise would be to dispose of all the facilities that are creating the WASDA (World Alliance Space Defence Agency), the regional institution that deals with spatial policies.
Only that agency can represent all the nations of the region, without exception.
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Amended.Atletius wrote:The proposal needs to be changed. I suggest rather than having solar panels along the circumference, have many small solar farms on pre determined, non sovereign land. This wouldn't ruin the appearance of the moon and wouldn't mean any impinging on sovereign moon colonies.Marquette (of Pacific) wrote:
@Atletius,
Yes, it will be forced on the rest of us. Our moon will be ruined and that doesn't change, whether we fund it or not.
Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Then we'll bring it to them. This is a fantastic idea and many nations with investments are FOR this proposal. I just made some changes that you cannot really argue are harmful.United States of Europe wrote:We know that your interests expansion of renewable energies are fully justifiable.Stirva wrote:I don't think you understand what this project is about.United States of Europe wrote:The Moon is not of any particular nation, but it belongs to all of us.
So voting against the proposal.
But the fact remains that the Moon is a pratrimonio of all, and its massive exploitation by a small group of nations can not be absolutely justified.
A compromise would be to dispose of all the facilities that are creating the WASDA (World Alliance Space Defence Agency), the regional institution that deals with spatial policies.
Only that agency can represent all the nations of the region, without exception.
Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
We can't scatter them around. We need to connect ALL the solar panel tiles together so they can link to the command center of the power plant. Basically we need to turn the moon into a globe shaped chesstable or disco ball. Scattering them around will require them to be connected with WI-FI but since the moons gravitational field is too weak to ward off solar rays the WI-FI may most likely be disrupted, causing a long term malfunction in the power plant or even Sabotage it completely making all the cash being put into this wasted.Atletius wrote:The proposal needs to be changed. I suggest rather than having solar panels along the circumference, have many small solar farms on pre determined, non sovereign land. This wouldn't ruin the appearance of the moon and wouldn't mean any impinging on sovereign moon colonies.Marquette (of Pacific) wrote:
@Atletius,
Yes, it will be forced on the rest of us. Our moon will be ruined and that doesn't change, whether we fund it or not.
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Can I make a suggestion? I know I'm not a member of parliament, but I'd like to suggest something.
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
You're a member of the World Alliance, you don't have the right to vote but you already have the right to talk.
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Trapatrical would like to reiterate that this is no longer a RING and is being updated through suggestions and amendments. Please do not vote until we are content with all changes.
Eurussian Position
Trapatrical wrote:Greetings, delegates. This proposal pertains to a highly debated topic of developing green energy facilities on the surface of our moon. The technology would strictly be solar panels that would cover the surface of the illuminated side of the moon (with the suggestion of moon colonies that would be be accounted for). However, the Island Republic implores nations with lunar investments to consider the benefits of this project.
1) Unlimited amounts of green energy delivered in large quantities.
2) A push towards a greener future without fossil fuel or nuclear dependence.
3) A more diplomatic approach to lunar collaborations between imperialist nations and, hopefully, a step towards a more connected World Alliance.
4) Distribution of energy would be based on the percentage of investments among nations. In simpler terms, the more you invest = the more energy you receive.
This proposal is open to amendments, but they will only be accepted scarcely.
-I'll post an image of the blueprints when I'm not at school-
Eurussia supports the objectives of the Green Lunar Project however, we are inclined to WITHHOLD OUR VOTE on the proposal under consideration due to the words "imperialist nations" and as well as lack of details on the entire Green Lunar Act. Furthermore, we are seeking the following revisions and amendments:
1) The Act must establish first the World Alliance Moon Commission, de facto headed by a Secretary General from Trapatrical (since the nation is the main proponent and provided that there will also be a mechanism to allow the democratic change of leadership in the commission) and suggested to have its seat in Saint Petersburg, Eurussia (since the nation is a stable and well-secured country) , that will ensure that the Moon, being the sole celestial body orbiting on Earth, shall be used for the benefit of all states and all peoples of the world preventing the Moon to become a source of international conflict.
2) The Act must also tasked the World Alliance Moon Commission to ensure that the Moon is not being used for any military purposes; it's environment prevented from being altered; it's open for research purposes of all nations; it's sovereignty is not claimed by any single state or a group of states; and is never explored for any purpose without any explicit benefit to all states and all peoples of the world.
3) The Act must also ensure that the World Alliance Moon Commission shall oversee the planning, development, and implementation of the Green Lunar Project.
Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Make the moon a disco ball?! Are you kidding me?Stirva wrote:We can't scatter them around. We need to connect ALL the solar panel tiles together so they can link to the command center of the power plant. Basically we need to turn the moon into a globe shaped chesstable or disco ball. Scattering them around will require them to be connected with WI-FI but since the moons gravitational field is too weak to ward off solar rays the WI-FI may most likely be disrupted, causing a long term malfunction in the power plant or even Sabotage it completely making all the cash being put into this wasted.Atletius wrote:The proposal needs to be changed. I suggest rather than having solar panels along the circumference, have many small solar farms on pre determined, non sovereign land. This wouldn't ruin the appearance of the moon and wouldn't mean any impinging on sovereign moon colonies.Marquette (of Pacific) wrote:
@Atletius,
Yes, it will be forced on the rest of us. Our moon will be ruined and that doesn't change, whether we fund it or not.
So we went from making it an eyesore with a band around the circumference to completely covering it in hideous, unsightly solar panels?
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Blame Trapatrical and Atletius. The sole purpose was the ring to ensure producement of energy 24 hours a day until they went all artistic.Marquette (of Pacific) wrote:Make the moon a disco ball?! Are you kidding me?Stirva wrote:We can't scatter them around. We need to connect ALL the solar panel tiles together so they can link to the command center of the power plant. Basically we need to turn the moon into a globe shaped chesstable or disco ball. Scattering them around will require them to be connected with WI-FI but since the moons gravitational field is too weak to ward off solar rays the WI-FI may most likely be disrupted, causing a long term malfunction in the power plant or even Sabotage it completely making all the cash being put into this wasted.Atletius wrote:The proposal needs to be changed. I suggest rather than having solar panels along the circumference, have many small solar farms on pre determined, non sovereign land. This wouldn't ruin the appearance of the moon and wouldn't mean any impinging on sovereign moon colonies.Marquette (of Pacific) wrote:
@Atletius,
Yes, it will be forced on the rest of us. Our moon will be ruined and that doesn't change, whether we fund it or not.
So we went from making it an eyesore with a band around the circumference to completely covering it in hideous, unsightly solar panels?
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Trapatrical agrees with the proposed amendments. In addition, there will NOT be a disco ball of panels. It will much more thought out than that.Great Eurussia wrote:Trapatrical wrote:Greetings, delegates. This proposal pertains to a highly debated topic of developing green energy facilities on the surface of our moon. The technology would strictly be solar panels that would cover the surface of the illuminated side of the moon (with the suggestion of moon colonies that would be be accounted for). However, the Island Republic implores nations with lunar investments to consider the benefits of this project.
1) Unlimited amounts of green energy delivered in large quantities.
2) A push towards a greener future without fossil fuel or nuclear dependence.
3) A more diplomatic approach to lunar collaborations between imperialist nations and, hopefully, a step towards a more connected World Alliance.
4) Distribution of energy would be based on the percentage of investments among nations. In simpler terms, the more you invest = the more energy you receive.
This proposal is open to amendments, but they will only be accepted scarcely.
-I'll post an image of the blueprints when I'm not at school-Eurussia supports the objectives of the Green Lunar Project however, we are inclined to WITHHOLD OUR VOTE on the proposal under consideration due to the words "imperialist nations" and as well as lack of details on the entire Green Lunar Act. Furthermore, we are seeking the following revisions and amendments:1) The Act must establish first the World Alliance Moon Commission, de facto headed by a Secretary General from Trapatrical (since the nation is the main proponent and provided that there will also be a mechanism to allow the democratic change of leadership in the commission) and suggested to have its seat in Saint Petersburg, Eurussia (since the nation is a stable and well-secured country) , that will ensure that the Moon, being the sole celestial body orbiting on Earth, shall be used for the benefit of all states and all peoples of the world preventing the Moon to become a source of international conflict.2) The Act must also tasked the World Alliance Moon Commission to ensure that the Moon is not being used for any military purposes; it's environment prevented from being altered; it's open for research purposes of all nations; it's sovereignty is not claimed by any single state or a group of states; and is never explored for any purpose without any explicit benefit to all states and all peoples of the world.3) The Act must also ensure that the World Alliance Moon Commission shall oversee the planning, development, and implementation of the Green Lunar Project.
Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Thank you. And I suppose you need to POST the new version to please EVERYONE.Trapatrical wrote:Trapatrical agrees with the proposed amendments. In addition, there will NOT be a disco ball of panels. It will much more thought out than that.Great Eurussia wrote:Trapatrical wrote:Greetings, delegates. This proposal pertains to a highly debated topic of developing green energy facilities on the surface of our moon. The technology would strictly be solar panels that would cover the surface of the illuminated side of the moon (with the suggestion of moon colonies that would be be accounted for). However, the Island Republic implores nations with lunar investments to consider the benefits of this project.
1) Unlimited amounts of green energy delivered in large quantities.
2) A push towards a greener future without fossil fuel or nuclear dependence.
3) A more diplomatic approach to lunar collaborations between imperialist nations and, hopefully, a step towards a more connected World Alliance.
4) Distribution of energy would be based on the percentage of investments among nations. In simpler terms, the more you invest = the more energy you receive.
This proposal is open to amendments, but they will only be accepted scarcely.
-I'll post an image of the blueprints when I'm not at school-Eurussia supports the objectives of the Green Lunar Project however, we are inclined to WITHHOLD OUR VOTE on the proposal under consideration due to the words "imperialist nations" and as well as lack of details on the entire Green Lunar Act. Furthermore, we are seeking the following revisions and amendments:1) The Act must establish first the World Alliance Moon Commission, de facto headed by a Secretary General from Trapatrical (since the nation is the main proponent and provided that there will also be a mechanism to allow the democratic change of leadership in the commission) and suggested to have its seat in Saint Petersburg, Eurussia (since the nation is a stable and well-secured country) , that will ensure that the Moon, being the sole celestial body orbiting on Earth, shall be used for the benefit of all states and all peoples of the world preventing the Moon to become a source of international conflict.2) The Act must also tasked the World Alliance Moon Commission to ensure that the Moon is not being used for any military purposes; it's environment prevented from being altered; it's open for research purposes of all nations; it's sovereignty is not claimed by any single state or a group of states; and is never explored for any purpose without any explicit benefit to all states and all peoples of the world.3) The Act must also ensure that the World Alliance Moon Commission shall oversee the planning, development, and implementation of the Green Lunar Project.
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All of this is now in the OP.Great Eurussia wrote:Thank you. And I suppose you need to POST the new version to please EVERYONE.Trapatrical wrote:Trapatrical agrees with the proposed amendments. In addition, there will NOT be a disco ball of panels. It will much more thought out than that.Great Eurussia wrote:Trapatrical wrote:Greetings, delegates. This proposal pertains to a highly debated topic of developing green energy facilities on the surface of our moon. The technology would strictly be solar panels that would cover the surface of the illuminated side of the moon (with the suggestion of moon colonies that would be be accounted for). However, the Island Republic implores nations with lunar investments to consider the benefits of this project.
1) Unlimited amounts of green energy delivered in large quantities.
2) A push towards a greener future without fossil fuel or nuclear dependence.
3) A more diplomatic approach to lunar collaborations between imperialist nations and, hopefully, a step towards a more connected World Alliance.
4) Distribution of energy would be based on the percentage of investments among nations. In simpler terms, the more you invest = the more energy you receive.
This proposal is open to amendments, but they will only be accepted scarcely.
-I'll post an image of the blueprints when I'm not at school-Eurussia supports the objectives of the Green Lunar Project however, we are inclined to WITHHOLD OUR VOTE on the proposal under consideration due to the words "imperialist nations" and as well as lack of details on the entire Green Lunar Act. Furthermore, we are seeking the following revisions and amendments:1) The Act must establish first the World Alliance Moon Commission, de facto headed by a Secretary General from Trapatrical (since the nation is the main proponent and provided that there will also be a mechanism to allow the democratic change of leadership in the commission) and suggested to have its seat in Saint Petersburg, Eurussia (since the nation is a stable and well-secured country) , that will ensure that the Moon, being the sole celestial body orbiting on Earth, shall be used for the benefit of all states and all peoples of the world preventing the Moon to become a source of international conflict.2) The Act must also tasked the World Alliance Moon Commission to ensure that the Moon is not being used for any military purposes; it's environment prevented from being altered; it's open for research purposes of all nations; it's sovereignty is not claimed by any single state or a group of states; and is never explored for any purpose without any explicit benefit to all states and all peoples of the world.3) The Act must also ensure that the World Alliance Moon Commission shall oversee the planning, development, and implementation of the Green Lunar Project.
Eurussian Position
Eurussia is satisfied with the new provisions of the Green Lunar Act.Trapatrical wrote:Greetings, delegates. This proposal pertains to a highly debated topic of developing green energy facilities on the surface of our moon. The technology would strictly be solar panels that would cover the surface of the illuminated side of the moon (with the suggestion of moon colonies that would be be accounted for). However, the Island Republic implores nations with lunar investments to consider the benefits of this project.
1) Unlimited amounts of green energy delivered in large quantities.
2) A push towards a greener future without fossil fuel or nuclear dependence.
3) A more diplomatic approach to lunar collaborations between nations and, hopefully, a step towards a more connected World Alliance.
4) Distribution of energy would be based on the percentage of investments among nations. In simpler terms, the more you invest = the more energy you receive.
In addition to this project, a new commission will be created to deal with all future endeavors regarding the moon:
1) Establishes the first World Alliance Moon Commission, de facto headed by a Secretary General from Trapatrical and headquartered in Saint Petersburg, Eurussia. It will ensure that the Moon, being the sole celestial body orbiting on Earth, shall be used for the benefit of all states and all peoples of the world preventing the Moon to become a source of international conflict.
2) Requires that the first World Alliance Moon Commission to ensure that the Moon is not being used for any military purposes; it's environment prevented from being altered; it's open for research purposes of all nations; it's sovereignty is not claimed by any single state or a group of states; and is never explored for any purpose without any explicit benefit to all states and all peoples of the world.
3) Insists that the World Alliance Moon Commission shall oversee the planning, development, and implementation of the Green Lunar Project.
Further Suggestions?
Does anyone else have any additional comments before we start voting? Please reconsider your decision if you voted prior to our amendments.
Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
I was not suggesting the entire moon be covered in solar panels. What I suggested was that small solar farms are scattered across the moons surface. To say I suggested turning the moon into a "disco ball" is entirely wrong.
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Don't worry, I knew that. We're going with the scattered panels. Stirva made a false statement.Atletius wrote:I was not suggesting the entire moon be covered in solar panels. What I suggested was that small solar farms are scattered across the moons surface. To say I suggested turning the moon into a "disco ball" is entirely wrong.
Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Atletius is in favour of the amendments proposed by Eurussia
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Thank you!Atletius wrote:Atletius is in favour of the amendments proposed by Eurussia
Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Antanares is for a Moon Commission, that would be a better idea than expand our nations on the moon without a real plan and regulation. Also, I would ask more attention to the detail in the organisation to transform the Moon into a sort of power source. The movements of the system Moon-Earth could be really difficult to understand and also use our satellite for the sonar panels could be very unfruitful.
OOC: I ask to a friend who study engineering at the university. Use the Moon is really unfruitful for the production of the energy for some reason like the transport of the energy from the Moon to the Earth and for the fact that a lot of time the Moon is not direct enlighten from the Sun, mainly.
OOC: I ask to a friend who study engineering at the university. Use the Moon is really unfruitful for the production of the energy for some reason like the transport of the energy from the Moon to the Earth and for the fact that a lot of time the Moon is not direct enlighten from the Sun, mainly.
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Trapatrical recently posted that its first Moon Council met, but the bill has not been passed, so it is not technically the first Moon Council, lol. People, hold your horses!
Marquette (of Pacific)- Potential World Power
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Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
Can you read? It was a military budget debate in parliament, and we were only discussing potential candidates for the potential HQ in Saint Petersburg. Don't skim anymore. It makes you look stupid.Marquette (of Pacific) wrote:Trapatrical recently posted that its first Moon Council met, but the bill has not been passed, so it is not technically the first Moon Council, lol. People, hold your horses!
Re: (Dismissed) Green Lunar Act
With all due respect for our friends from Trapatrical, Aloia casts its vote against this bill for now. We reserve the right to change our vote, if the plan is changed to become more practical.
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