Re: SECURS Assembly

Great Eurussia Sun May 18, 2014 10:22 am

New Tarajan wrote:

So, differently from us, are you still claiming such a kind of apologies?
We offered to you our hand in peace for many, many times. Now we have choosen an international forum to do so too, in accordance with the Statute of this Organization.
Our willingness to come to a peaceful solution is in front of the eyes of everybody.

As we said, we are not willing to loose an occasion for peace keeping unuseful claims for apologies. We are ready to leave behind us the entire issue, and to re-build our relations, in the name of peace and friendship.
It's up to Eurussia, now, to choose.

Again, our requirements will stand, and leaving aside past issues to establish friendship most especially the insults coming from the mouth of your King? How about the lies spread by your Prime Minister saying that we pressured Ceveztria when it fact the world have seen it was never the case? Is your government serious that Eurussians are foolish to just move on from these?

Anyhow, in the spirit of peace and tranquility, we will just continue to uphold the Joint Declaration of Friendship negotiated by the Tarajan Government before which is in line with the aspirations of this organization.

New Tarajan Sun May 18, 2014 10:27 am

Then, please, explain why we should feel offended why you called us "opportunistic", for example, and continue to describe us as a country spreading only lies.
We are being far too reasonable, for the sake of peace and friendship, and you still continue to refuse to reach a peaceful solution for all of this?

The Declaration of Friendship came after our own government opened negotiations, not yours. Thus, we are far more keen in following it than you. Please, do not take as your own prize what others have promoted.

We wish to ask to the Eurussian Government how they pretend to continue to stay in Organizations which create an alliance with a country which they do not recognize, since you do not recognize our King (which, for us, is the most serious insult something could bring on the Kingdom, and we continue to deliberately ignore this fact)? We decided to go ahead, not to look behind us to all the tensions risen between our countries. We sincerely hope to see the same willingness on the other side.

Great Eurussia Sun May 18, 2014 10:13 pm

New Tarajan wrote:Then, please, explain why we should feel offended why you called us "opportunistic", for example, and continue to describe us as a country spreading only lies.
We are being far too reasonable, for the sake of peace and friendship, and you still continue to refuse to reach a peaceful solution for all of this?

The Declaration of Friendship came after our own government opened negotiations, not yours. Thus, we are far more keen in following it than you. Please, do not take as your own prize what others have promoted.

We wish to ask to the Eurussian Government how they pretend to continue to stay in Organizations which create an alliance with a country which they do not recognize, since you do not recognize our King (which, for us, is the most serious insult something could bring on the Kingdom, and we continue to deliberately ignore this fact)? We decided to go ahead, not to look behind us to all the tensions risen between our countries. We sincerely hope to see the same willingness on the other side.

Eurussia condemns these statements coming from the Tarajani Government. We are appalled by its suggestion of talks yet taking advantage of the situation to try to shame us. Again, as everyone knows, Eurussia is always clear with its intentions and, in fact, has never closed its doors for New Tarajan. It is just always the latter who keep on insisting of forgetting the past without even having the slight of repentance for its wrongdoings against us. We always made it clear that we only reciprocate what other nations are doing to us. And for that note, the Tarajani Government perfectly knows our conditions before the re-establishment of full diplomatic relations, and that is a simple public apology for all the insults and lies.

At the end of the day, Eurussia is always committed to peace, and on that note, we will continue to uphold our commitment to our Joint Declaration of Friendship with New Tarajan, for the sake of harmonious cooperation and peaceful communications.

New Tarajan Mon May 19, 2014 12:42 am

Only a simple answer, Eurussia, we wish to pose to you: why should we apologize unilaterally, since the first ones to even insulting the other to be an opportunistic and lie-spreading country was Eurussia itself, long ago, at the beginning of these unuseful and unnecessary tensions.
So, if apologies shall be issued, it should be done with reciprocity, at the same time, possibly at a meeting specifically designed for this.
In this case, seeing the reciprocity of the decision, we would be glad to shake our hands once again with Eurussia, and we cannot imagine a better forum for this than this Assembly.
We will wait for your response.
Our hand, will keep standing in front of you, ready to be shaken.

Great Eurussia Mon May 19, 2014 1:21 pm

New Tarajan wrote:Only a simple answer, Eurussia, we wish to pose to you: why should we apologize unilaterally, since the first ones to even insulting the other to be an opportunistic and lie-spreading country was Eurussia itself, long ago, at the beginning of these unuseful and unnecessary tensions.
So, if apologies shall be issued, it should be done with reciprocity, at the same time, possibly at a meeting specifically designed for this.
In this case, seeing the reciprocity of the decision, we would be glad to shake our hands once again with Eurussia, and we cannot imagine a better forum for this than this Assembly.
We will wait for your response.
Our hand, will keep standing in front of you, ready to be shaken.

Again, Eurussia has maintained its stance that it only reciprocates every action towards us. We also urge the Tarajani Government to avoid pretention as if we are the ones harming them. Our position will never change that the only way to kick off a formal discussion of diplomatic relations is a public apology from New Tarajan.

Why? With our previous tensions, we have kept accused of lies and unworthy terms coming from several Tarajani officials. And now, just recently, we have been accused of imperialism and exerting pressure on Ceveztria just to gain lands but we only responded with utmost steadfastness and professionalism in the spirit of diplomacy and goodness. In fact, we have shown and proven that it is New Tarajan who have been exerting pressure to Ceveztria just to twist facts and justify this fake talks to serve their interests. Here,

SECURS Assembly - Page 4 Screenshot_2014_05_17_02_52_08_1

A quoted TG from New Tarajan to change the status quo on Ceveztria. The TG speaks for itself.

Case Against New Tarajan!

A collated and quoted statements coming from the Tarajani officials from our previous tensions. We later withdrew the case to show our goodwill.

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Last but not the least, is the recenr accusations of New Tarajan that we forced ourselves on Ceveztria. Anyways, the TG will speak for itself and will vindicate us.

With all these, don't we have the right to demand a public apology from the righteous King of New Tarajan and his so good government?

Despite all these, the Eurussian Government has never changed its position and we'll continue to show goodwill to the people of New Tarajan by way of our Embassy in Velikogolka to process their visas and our commitment to our Joint Declaration of Friendship with New Tarajan.

New Tarajan Mon May 19, 2014 6:26 pm

No, you don't. Simple answer.
Why?
Because you are the only country here to use a long-ended trial as a piece of your own propaganda.
Because we are sick and tired to see you not to recognize the most fundamental principles of diplomatic correctness (an Head of State is always an Head of State, and you cannot pretend not to recognize him without insulting, and unrecognizing, the entire country).
Because the words we used in the past, and now, are not different from the words used by Eurussia itself (and, since the trial was not on this issue, your statement prove nothing).

If one deserves apologies, the other side deserves them too. Because we deserve the same degree of respect of every other country.

Your attempts to blacken our reputation had never been successful, since New Tarajan itself, and its Head of State particularly, actually enjoy an high-degree of respect from every country of the world, and only Eurussia fails in seeing this fact.

So, we are obliged, by our own good-will and spirit of friendship, to keep giving our hand to you.
You are free not to take it, but the fault of this will fall entirely on your shoulders, together with the violation of all the principles of this Statute.
Let us put finally to an end all of this.

Great Eurussia Mon May 19, 2014 8:57 pm

New Tarajan wrote:
So, we are obliged, by our own good-will and spirit of friendship, to keep giving our hand to you.
You are free not to take it, but the fault of this will fall entirely on your shoulders, together with the violation of all the principles of this Statute.
Let us put finally to an end all of this.

Again, if New Tarajan simply wants Eurussia out of this organization, just tell us. We never disrespected New Tarajan, but its King had made the wrong move of insulting us, and our demand for a public apology will not change. Most especially just recently that your government has accused us of putting pressure on Ceveztria just to colonize it? Where is the proof? None. In fact, we were the ones who vindicated ourselves.

If New Tarajan would like to see Eurussia out of this organization because it cannot regain its trust again, it will always be New Tarajan's fault. If we have violated the so called principles of the Statute of this organization, Eurussia would like to see it.

New Tarajan Mon May 19, 2014 10:44 pm

Read the Statute, and take your responsibilities on yourself, Eurussia.
We are not asking for expulsion, or be sure that the request would have been done directly to this Assembly, without any subterfuge. We are only asking for peace, nothing else, and we are sorry to see such an unjustified hate against us also in such an international forum as the SECURS Assembly.
Take the decisions you like most, New Tarajan will keep going on its own path, with or without Eurussia.

Now, seeing this, as Secretary General I ask to leave this thread free for the incoming Assembly Meeting, which will take place on the 24th. Thank you.

Great Eurussia Tue May 20, 2014 12:12 am

New Tarajan wrote:Read the Statute, and take your responsibilities on yourself, Eurussia.
We are not asking for expulsion, or be sure that the request would have been done directly to this Assembly, without any subterfuge. We are only asking for peace, nothing else, and we are sorry to see such an unjustified hate against us also in such an international forum as the SECURS Assembly.
Take the decisions you like most, New Tarajan will keep going on its own path, with or without Eurussia.

Now, seeing this, as Secretary General I ask to leave this thread free for the incoming Assembly Meeting, which will take place on the 24th. Thank you.

Seeing you can't provide any violation, we thank you.
Eurussia will attend to the incoming Assembly Meeting.

New Tarajan Tue May 20, 2014 12:38 am

It's all a matter of responsibility.

Thank you for your participation.

New Tarajan Sat May 24, 2014 8:09 pm

THIRD SECURS ASSEMBLY MEETING

Please, post the arrival of your Heads of State and Government; the meeting will begin in five hours.

Great Eurussia Sat May 24, 2014 9:44 pm

Eurussian Ambassador to SECURS

Her Excellency, Caroline Kennedy

Europe and Asia Sat May 24, 2014 9:52 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:

Eurussian Ambassador to SECURS

Her Excellency, Caroline Kennedy

The Court requests the Eurussian presence at the Court Case. We remind Eurussia that refusal to due so will result in restrictions and penalties being imposed.

New Tarajan Sat May 24, 2014 9:57 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:

Eurussian Ambassador to SECURS

Her Excellency, Caroline Kennedy

OOC: Eurussia, the SECURS Assembly is composed by the Heads of State and Government.

Great Eurussia Sat May 24, 2014 11:01 pm

Spoiler:

The Eurussian Ambassador to SECURS is the alter ego of the Eurussian Government.

New Tarajan Sat May 24, 2014 11:12 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
Spoiler:

The Eurussian Ambassador to SECURS is the alter ego of the Eurussian Government.

As you wish. If you desire such a low-profile representation, the choice is yours.
We are now waiting for the other participants.

Great Eurussia Sat May 24, 2014 11:31 pm

New Tarajan wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
Spoiler:

The Eurussian Ambassador to SECURS is the alter ego of the Eurussian Government.

As you wish. If you desire such a low-profile representation, the choice is yours.
We are now waiting for the other participants.

Eurussia is deeply offended by branding our Eurussian Ambassador to SECURS as a "low profile" envoy and representation, much more disappointed receiving such disrespectful remarks from the host government, we assume, the SECURS Secretary General. We would like to inform the good Secretariat that ambassadors are the direct alter ego of a country's head of state and head of government, making it styled and addressed with "His/Her Excellency" and with such shall be treated with utmost respect accorded to a head of state.

Being the first to come to this important Assembly and receiving such unprofessional treatment and remarks, Eurussia cannot hide its frustration and disappointment with this kind of undiplomatic approach and remarks towards our esteemed Ambassador.

New Tarajan Sat May 24, 2014 11:36 pm

Please, there is no need for such an unjustified frustration. We never lacked of respect toward any political representative of any country, and we do not accept lessons from the Eurussian government on how to deal with foreign dignitaries.
We are sorry if Her Excellency felt insulted by our remarks, but we can assure her that this was not our intention. Simply, we were underlining that, due the fact the SECURS Charter specifically designed the Assembly as a meeting of Heads of State and Government, to send an Ambassador, instead of the Head of State and Government, is a choice to lower profile. This is not because we believe Her Excellency not to be able to handle with such a kind of meetings, of course, but simply because an Ambassador is not an Head of State and we don't understand why His Imperial Majesty is not here.
And this is all.
Please, do not transform this peaceful Assembly in a place of frustration and resentment, since we are gathering here in peace and for peace.
Thank you.

Great Eurussia Sat May 24, 2014 11:47 pm

New Tarajan wrote:Please, there is no need for such an unjustified frustration. We never lacked of respect toward any political representative of any country, and we do not accept lessons from the Eurussian government on how to deal with foreign dignitaries.
We are sorry if Her Excellency felt insulted by our remarks, but we can assure her that this was not our intention. Simply, we were underlining that, due the fact the SECURS Charter specifically designed the Assembly as a meeting of Heads of State and Government, to send an Ambassador, instead of the Head of State and Government, is a choice to lower profile. This is not because we believe Her Excellency not to be able to handle with such a kind of meetings, of course, but simply because an Ambassador is not an Head of State and we don't understand why His Imperial Majesty is not here.
And this is all.
Please, do not transform this peaceful Assembly in a place of frustration and resentment, since we are gathering here in peace and for peace.
Thank you.

We accept the clarifications and we hope that such incidents will not occur again. And for your information, so as just in case so as not to result in any kind of unnecessary stories that might come out with the absence of our head of state and head of government, that has been prevalent nowadays, His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Akihito, is not feeling well due to his age, while Her Excellency, Chancellor Hillary Clinton, and her government ministers, are pre-occupied with our nationwide efforts in the full recovery and rebuilding of our Duchy of Ceveztria and our Duchy of Ausavia for the Eurussians there.

New Tarajan Sat May 24, 2014 11:54 pm

We shall inform you, Your Excellency, that we do not like "unnecessary stories". We base our actions and ideas only on the ground of facts.
Any way, we are sorry to hearing about the health of Emperor Akihito and we wish him the quickest recovery.

Great Eurussia Sat May 24, 2014 11:59 pm

New Tarajan wrote:We shall inform you, Your Excellency, that we do not like "unnecessary stories". We base our actions and ideas only on the ground of facts.
Any way, we are sorry to hearing about the health of Emperor Akihito and we wish him the quickest recovery.

Thank you.

Ireland Sun May 25, 2014 12:27 am

Great Eurussia wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:We shall inform you, Your Excellency, that we do not like "unnecessary stories". We base our actions and ideas only on the ground of facts.
Any way, we are sorry to hearing about the health of Emperor Akihito and we wish him the quickest recovery.

Thank you.

Ireland is deeply saddened by the health of Emperor Akihito and we wish him a speedy recovery

Great Eurussia Sun May 25, 2014 12:29 am

Great Empire of Ireland wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:We shall inform you, Your Excellency, that we do not like "unnecessary stories". We base our actions and ideas only on the ground of facts.
Any way, we are sorry to hearing about the health of Emperor Akihito and we wish him the quickest recovery.

Thank you.
Ireland is deeply saddened by the health of Emperor Akihito and we wish him a speedy recovery

Thank you.

Ireland Sun May 25, 2014 1:05 am

Vice-President of Ireland

His Excellency, Nathan Deal

New Tarajan Sun May 25, 2014 2:03 am

His Imperial and Royal Majesty, King Friederick Wilhelm II

"Greetings, honourable friends, to this third meeting of the Security and Economical Union of Royalist States.
We are gathering here today in order to make this wonderful alliance and organization going forward, in our ever-changing world, in order to meet the challenges the future will pose to us.
First of all, I wish to inform all of you that His Highness the Prince of Antanares, will reach us as soon as possible, since important State affairs have forced him not to be here in time.
Now, we shall proceed in defining the issues to be discussed in this Assembly.
The Kingdom of New Tarajan would like to present to you the following issues on the agenda:

- the signature of an agreement for scientific cooperation;

- the organization of the first generalized military exercises of our Joint Military Command, the military forces of the SECURS;

Any other idea is very welcomed.
Thank you."

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