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Eurussian Ambassador
Secretary General of the NATO
Eurussian Ambasaador to NATO
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
"Your Excellencies, Ambassadors of the Member States to the Neutral Alliance Treaty Organization, I have called this very urgent emergency meeting of the NATO Council upon the endorsement of the Eurussian Government, following a request from the Irish Government.
As you were aware, the Confederacy of Magni Quas has surprisingly declared a unilateral war against the Kingdom of Ireland during its time of weakneas still in recovery after its devastating earthquake. I do believe that stirring dispute, much more a war against a fellow member state is a ground for expulsion under the Neutral Alliance Treaty.
As a fellow member, we do not also wish to see Magni Quas expelled from the NATO as doing so, the country will perpetually be banned from the NATO. As such, we hope we could find a peaceful solution before an ample number of votes are achieved and we hope that both Parties will exercise maximum restraint while this emergency meeting of the NATO Council is going on.
Our government has already condemned the declaration and made its position to be in favor of defending Ireland, at all cost, if the situation requires such. Hence, below are our official agenda on this meeting:
* Peace Talks between Ireland and Magni Quas
* Expulsion Vote against Magni Quas
The floor is now open for your views and position.
NOTE: By practice, absence is a YES in favor of a common action of the NATO Council. Thank you."
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President Jeremy Meinsma of Snarfia
The Empire of Snarfia wants a peacefull solution to this confict but will it go wrong we will stand by to deploy forces anytime
The Empire of Snarfia wants a peacefull solution to this confict but will it go wrong we will stand by to deploy forces anytime
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Eurussian Ambassador
Secretary General of the NATO
Eurussian Ambasaador to NATO
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
"We second that President Meinsma, our government has also maintained the same position. We want to peacefully find a solution to this sudden declaration of war, but we are not afraid to use force if it becomes necessary. In fact, the NATO has officially asked Ireland and Magni Quas to maintain the status quo and refrain from making any move that could escalate tensions.
We shall await for His Majesty, King Willem Alexander of Ireland, as he has sent a word that he will personally present the position of the Kingdom of Ireland on the issue."
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His Majesty,The King of Ireland
Willem-Alexander
"I am glad to be the official representative of Ireland for this emergency NATO Session.I am also happy to be here in Moscow.But we are hear to discuss the recent declaration pf war on Ireland by Magni Quas. But President Armen of Magni Quas has stated that he will not settle for peace.He wants to take over all of our western empire and we will not settle for this.We do not know why he wants to take over all of our eastern empire. To find that out we must wait for the delegation of Magni Quas.But we just want peace, but if President Armen seeks to destroy that peace he will find the collapse of Magni Quas.But we will not be the first to strike. If he strikes first then we will retaliate."
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United States Secretary of State
DENIS LIBER
"Our nation only wishes the best for Ireland in these trying times, but we stress that action must be taken in response to this situation. These actions must not ever go unpunished. If the representative from Magni Quas does not speak and explain themselves and their solution to the problem their crisis, we propose that they be removed from NATO immediately. After that, we expect our military alliances to go into effect and begin defending Ireland. We also hope that we end this with peace and not war."
DENIS LIBER
"Our nation only wishes the best for Ireland in these trying times, but we stress that action must be taken in response to this situation. These actions must not ever go unpunished. If the representative from Magni Quas does not speak and explain themselves and their solution to the problem their crisis, we propose that they be removed from NATO immediately. After that, we expect our military alliances to go into effect and begin defending Ireland. We also hope that we end this with peace and not war."
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His Excellency, President John Armen
"I have been asked to come here to discuss why we are doing what we are doing.Let me explain something to the members of NATO.In 1972,42 years ago,was the start of the Irish Empire.they started to conquer in our general area. So to avoid an attack the Chancellor of Magni Quas ceded all lands of Magni Quas to the Irish Empire. And now I am President and I want those lands back.Magni Quas wants those lands back."
This is what we originally had.
And that is what we demand. No less.
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His Royal Majesty,King Willem-Alexander,of Ireland
"Sir, Mr.Armen. You know very well that you are wrong.When we 'took over' Magni Quas it was no where near that size. We would of considered it but you have started a war and you are going to see your nation dissolved.We wanted to discuss this peacefully but you didn't. So you started a war.We will not allow an imperialistic country to get ahold of land that isn't theres. And even more so, we gave you more land than what you originally had."
"This sir is the correct map of Magni Quas.But in your near future there will be no Magni Quas and you will be sitting in a Jail Cell."
Eurussian Ambassador
Secretary General of the NATO
Eurussian Ambasaador to NATO
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
"Your Majesties and Your Excellencies, thank you. We have heard the grievances of Magni Quas and that of Ireland. I do believe that Magni Quas has its own reasons, the same with Ireland, and they both have legitimate historical differences and for that, we must continue talking, here.
However, I cannot stress how important to maintain the status quo, and having convened this Session, we have asked Ireland and Magni Quas to maintain the status quo. Unfortunately, Magni Quas blatantly defied it.
Hence, within the next 24 Hours, as requested by Ireland, and by virtue of violations of Article 1 of the Neutral Alliance Treaty, if no member state opposes, the Confederacy of Magni Quas is effectively expelled from the NATO, removing any obligations and legal hurdle from any of us to defend/ protect Magni Quas. On top of this, we also move to impose a unilateral international trade embargo against Magni Quas where the NATO Economic Community will stop trading with the Confederacy of Magni Quas.
However, despite all these, the NATO Council requests all member states and all third Parties to refrain from taking any military maneuvers to give way for this peace talks to allow Magni Quas to take the peaceful path in resolving this. Unless otherwise Magni Quas takes again another offensive action, the NATO Council won't stop any self defense act.
The Eurussian Government also informs Magni Quas that if it is expelled from the NATO, without assuring us it will not make any more unilateral military moves, our government will suspend its Treaty of Friendship with Magni Quas.
Although we are ready to continue to talk, if Magni Quas chooses to, the NATO Council will also not hesitate to take collective and united action to defend Ireland under Article 7 of the Neutral Alliance Treaty."
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His Majesty,King Willem-Alexander of Ireland
"Your Excellencies, I believe that 24 hours has passed and Magni Quas is officially expelled from NATO.So now that Magni Quas is gone, I would like to push for NATO intervention in the Western War.Any aid that can be lent will help alot.We must crush this war before it gets out of hand. So I ask NATO and nations of NATO to please help Ireland in our effort against Magni Quas"
Eurussian Ambassador
Secretary General of the NATO
Eurussian Ambasaador to NATO
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
"Your Majesties and Your Excellencies, with no opposition from any member state of the alliance, I do hereby declare that the Confederacy of Magni Quas is hereby expelled from the Neutral Alliance Treaty Organization citing its blatant violations of Article 1 of the Neutral Alliance Treaty. And as part of this, that nation shall not enjoy the benefits and advantages of being part of our neutral alliance anymore, and as per the Treaty, under Article 10, the Confederacy of Magni Quas may not be granted future membership anymore.
Also, as part of this expulsion due to its aggression against the Kingdom of Ireland, the NATO Economic Community, composed of all its member states, has imposed a unilateral international trade embargo against the Confederacy of Magni Quas prohibiting all kinds of trade and economic activity with the said country.
Furthermore, as invoked by Talanzaar and Ireland itself, Article 7 of the Neutral Alliance Treaty has been invoked thus all member states are obliged to unite and act as ONE, under the flag of the NATO Strike Force, with the full support of the NATO Intelligence Network and the NATO Armed Forces Network, to act in self defense as recognized by the WA Constitution, and solely in defense of our co-member state, the Kingdom of Ireland.
Lastly, as announced by the Eurussian Government, as the expulsion takes effect, our nation has decided to suspend its Treaty of Friendship with the Confederacy of Magni Quas, effectively recalling our Ambassador in Ulan Bator and as well as send back home their Ambassador in Moscow. And officially ends our formal relations with the said country.
The Eurussian Empire further commits itself to the defense of Ireland.
Thank you very much."
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European Ministry of Foreign Affairs
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin Schulz
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin Schulz
Your Excellencies,
First, it is an honor to be back here, to represent the interests of the people of Europe, right in front of the major powers on the planet.
As well all know, Europe has always been opposed to any kind of imperialism, and we fought strenuously countries that are moving towards this kind of foreign policy. The war must be moved only for just cause, it is an extremely delicate. Many nations and many leaders think that war is just a game, and in fact continually destabilize the delicate balance that keeps the region pacific and stable. Some nations move on the international scene with unprovoked aggression, and these countries are a danger, a threat to anyone who loves peace, justice and democracy. These countries are nothing but rogue state, and should be treated accordingly.
Magni Quas falls within this category, which is why we support his expulsion from this great and prosperous organization. In addition, we support all diplomatic and economic countermeasures that were necessary, and to avoid further demonstrations of aggression, we support a military action designed to render null and void the warfighting capabilities of this rogue state. They had a chance to apologize, to cease any attempt of invasion and to carry on diplomacy. Their reasons for doing so would be heard. But they have refused dialogue, the consequences that we all know are inevitable.
However I must warn all present here not to make the mistake of downloading violence and reprisals on the population of Magni Quas. Therefore we believe that the attacks should be precise and limited military infrastructure, civilian casualties must not be tolerated, the civilian areas should not even be touched. The rulers of Magni Quas are guilty, not its population.
Thank you.
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His Majesty,King Willem-Alexander of Ireland
"Senator Schulz you are indeed correct on the matter that we must not touch the civilian population.They have done no wrong and most likely will do no wrong.It is not them that is to blame but instead President Armen and his Confederate Council. The only bad thing the civilian population did was elect this fool into power and we cant blame them for what is happening now.
Magni Quas does indeed fall into the category of imperialist but they are also warmongers.Those are two things that we do not need here in NATO nor in the world.Ireland and im sure the rest of NATO would rather be neutral right now but it seems Magni Quas is here to disrupt our peace.
And before i step down i would like to propose a division of Magni Quas
You should all see a map of Magni Quas. It is divided into 3 colors. These colors represent Area of Control. Yellow=Europe Red=Eurussia and Green=Ireland.After Magni Quas fall Europe,Eurussia, and me(Ireland) would take control of these areas.Thats only a proposal though.But the capital(Ulan Bator) would be divided into 3 districts the European District, the Eurussian District, and the Irish District."
Eurussian Ambassador
Secretary General of the NATO
Eurussian Ambasaador to NATO
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
"Indeed Your Excellencies. However, we are concerned on reports that President John Arman has fled the country together with his closest government ministers. We are still verifying it at the moment. Nevertheless, our Chancellor, Her Excellency Hillary Clinton, has already issued a stern warning to any country that will accept President Arman.
And with regards to the Irish proposal on the military administration and strategic planning on the division of Magni Quas into three territorial commands, if that is what should be called it, we have no opposition, as it will allow us to split our forces strategically to our own advantage on the field. We commend and accept this proposal."
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin Schulz
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin Schulz
Majesty, certainly the people have voted for the current rulers of Magni Quas, but not for this reason we criminalize them. Indeed, the more we show ourselves benevolent with civilians, the more we show them how criminals are the leaders, the more they will stand by our side. And believe me, the post-conflict stabilization operations will be much faster and more efficient. The force must be used with intelligence.
In addition, on behalf of Europe, I accept this division. However, I believe that this should be only temporary, just to a better coordination of the military operations,to ensure stability and to begin the work of reconstruction. After that, the country will have to be assembled and made independent again, the people should have the right to self-determination. At best, we can impose a ban on rearmament, and grant us an indirect control over the nation.
If we divide the country permanently, we'd pretty much exactly what Magni Quas was doing with your nation, your Majesty. A mere colonial war, worthy of the most barbarous imperialist nations. And, I wonder, why Magni Quas should not be allowed to undertake wars of conquest and instead we should feel allowed to do so? Maybe because we are stronger? So here applies the law of the strongest? You know true that the law of the strongest are used by animals? Personally, I consider myself more intelligent than an animal, and we all are.
So, I repeat, Magni Quas should not be split, but made independent and democratic, by simply imposing barriers to reset. The subdivision shall only apply to military operations and post-conflict stabilization.
Thank you.
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His Majesty,King Willem-Alexander of Ireland
"Mr.Senator you are indeed correct. We have no right to do to them what they tried to do to us. If that makes sense.But i was mainly talking about for the duration of the war and temporarily after the war.
My main purpose for proposing this is so after the war we can help Magni Quas establish a new democratic government. And to help start a reconstruction of the infrastructure. I also believe we should make the new government sign a treaty forbidding the Magni Quas military to reach pat 50,000 men and women.And banning the military from having an Airforce,Navy,Coast Guard, or Marines.Ban the military from becoming to advanced.And make them pay back the cost of the war to each nation involved.
Pretty much everything you said i agree with.
But Magni Quas will not be split. We will just have indirect control over the nation.Those are just areas of control. It is still Magni Quas but with three different districts. Think of them as states or provinces or whatever."
Eurussian Ambassador
Secretary General of the NATO
Eurussian Ambasaador to NATO
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
"Indeed Your Majesty and Your Excellency. However, it is too early to predict the outcome of the Irish Western War, as Magni Quas is an ethnically divided nation and the Irish proposal carefully considered that. We do believe that President Arman has implemented policies to create resentment among ethnicities within Magni Quas so that if it led to the country's downfall, it will be hard for any future stable transition due to the mistrust among them.
And for that, Eurussia still supports the division whether may it be temporary or permanent. And in case, if ever, Magni Quas becomes independent again, if and only if, we also support the idea of sanctioning a pacifist Constitution for that country guaranteed by our nations and will only allow the future Magni Quas, if and only if, to develop local police forces only for peace and order."
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin Schulz
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin Schulz
Perfect, thanks Majesty. Obviously I did not mean to insinuate anything, just a small clarification. Therefore, on behalf of Europe, finally accepted the subdivision, and commitment to my nation to ensure maximum availability in combat operations, post-conflict and reconstruction. I would say that the operations can begin, if the Secretary-General agrees.
Thank you.
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Eurussian Ambassador
Secretary General of the NATO
Eurussian Ambasaador to NATO
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
"Thank you Senator Shulz, we shall continue our operations on Magni Quas. And I do believe we have the concurrence of His Majesty since he is the one who proposed the idea of division. In anyway, we bid you good luck."
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President of Ireland
Enda Kenny
"I am replacing His Majesty as Ambassador to this meeting as he as went home.But with surrender of Magni Quas to Irish,Eurussian, and European Forces. We must now start helping Magni Quas rebuild their infrastructure and their government. We must help them write out a Pacifist Constitution,and we must force Magni Quas to sign the Treaty of Ulan Bator, which states that theire military can not get over 50,000 soldiers.That they can not have an Airforce,Navy,Coast Guard,Special Forces,or Marine Corp. Among other things that we discussed here.I will wait for the opinions of NATO.Thank you"
Eurussian Ambassador
Secretary General of the NATO
Eurussian Ambasaador to NATO
Anders Fogh Rasmussen
"Your Excellencies, it is my pleasure to inform you that the Confederacy of Magni Quas who sparked the Irish Western War has now fallen. Let us give a moment of silence for our troops that have sacrificed their lives for peace.
And the bottomline of these, is we have won. Our united efforts and determination to bring peace has been achieved. We offer this victory to our peoples and for the people of Magniquas. Long Live the NATO! Long Live our nations!"
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin Schulz
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin Schulz
We had a pre-agreement for the future of Magni Quas. It had to be gathered in a definitive manner, was to be given the opportunity to self-determination to the people, we had to make a free and democratic nation. Instead the usual imperialistic greed of certain nations has once again nipped in the bud any attempt at international justice. We had agreements, the agreements were not respected. We had made a covenant, that covenant was broken.
We fought this war with the hope of destroying an oppressive dictatorshipand warmongering, with the task of giving the people a chance of a revival with democracy, justice and fairness. Now this war has become what? Nothing more than a war of conquest, a colonial enterprise worthy of the nineteenth-century empires. Our soldiers have fought and suffered for democracy ,died with the ideal of justice, not for conquer new territories!
We did not do anything but what Magni Quas initially wanted to do with Ireland, a war of conquest.
We did not do anything but what Magni Quas initially wanted to do with Ireland, a war of conquest. And I want to know, in the name of God, what authorizes us to do that? Why Magni Quas can not start wars of conquest and instead we can feel entitled to do this? Because we are stronger? Because we have larger armies? So here it is the law of the jungle, the law of the strongest? Therefore we behave like animals behave, or am I wrong?
I thought that this organization had ideals a bit more different than those of imperialism and colonialism. We relied on NATO and Eurussia, but apparently our trust has been betrayed cowardly.
Therefore we ask Eurussia an afterthought. We are calling for a peacekeeping operation and began operation of a humanitarian assistance to the population, and in the meantime we ask that Magni Quas is created in a democratic and fair administrative structure. Magni Quas must be assembled and made independent, the population will have the right to self-determination.
Or you do so, or Europe will no longer trying to get into an organization of the imperialists and warmongers.
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OOC: I can't respond so long. But let us have clarifications from Ireland since I am just following his plans.
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Sorry but I will clarify laterGreat Eurussia wrote:OOC: I can't respond so long. But let us have clarifications from Ireland since I am just following his plans.
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The agreement stands and i put down any accusation of this being imperialistic.United States of Europe wrote:Ministry of Foreign Affairs
European Ambassador to NATO
Senator Martin SchulzWe had a pre-agreement for the future of Magni Quas. It had to be gathered in a definitive manner, was to be given the opportunity to self-determination to the people, we had to make a free and democratic nation. Instead the usual imperialistic greed of certain nations has once again nipped in the bud any attempt at international justice. We had agreements, the agreements were not respected. We had made a covenant, that covenant was broken.
We fought this war with the hope of destroying an oppressive dictatorshipand warmongering, with the task of giving the people a chance of a revival with democracy, justice and fairness. Now this war has become what? Nothing more than a war of conquest, a colonial enterprise worthy of the nineteenth-century empires. Our soldiers have fought and suffered for democracy ,died with the ideal of justice, not for conquer new territories!
We did not do anything but what Magni Quas initially wanted to do with Ireland, a war of conquest.
We did not do anything but what Magni Quas initially wanted to do with Ireland, a war of conquest. And I want to know, in the name of God, what authorizes us to do that? Why Magni Quas can not start wars of conquest and instead we can feel entitled to do this? Because we are stronger? Because we have larger armies? So here it is the law of the jungle, the law of the strongest? Therefore we behave like animals behave, or am I wrong?
I thought that this organization had ideals a bit more different than those of imperialism and colonialism. We relied on NATO and Eurussia, but apparently our trust has been betrayed cowardly.
Therefore we ask Eurussia an afterthought. We are calling for a peacekeeping operation and began operation of a humanitarian assistance to the population, and in the meantime we ask that Magni Quas is created in a democratic and fair administrative structure. Magni Quas must be assembled and made independent, the population will have the right to self-determination.
Or you do so, or Europe will no longer trying to get into an organization of the imperialists and warmongers.
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