Re: WAAF General Meeting

New Tarajan Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:47 pm

More evidences than a direct attack?

Federation of Antanares Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:48 pm

But Russia had provoke a war. And Antanares think that provoke a war is an action against the world peace. If Stalin remain at the power we can easily provide that, after a rearm, he would provoke another war.
Russia must pay for the war that had provoke and, if the Security Council doesn't act, I think Antanares should do independently what is necessary to do.

New Tarajan Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:52 pm

Federation of Antanares wrote:But Russia had provoke a war. And Antanares think that provoke a war is an action against the world peace. If Stalin remain at the power we can easily provide that, after a rearm, he would provoke another war.
Russia must pay for the war that had provoke and, if the Security Council doesn't act, I think Antanares should do independently what is necessary to do.

It is not necessary to take independent actions, which would only exacerbate the delicate situation we have now to face.
The best solution is to keep the control of the situation strictly in the hands of the WAAF and the Security Council.
But, more important, I would like to ask for an opinion directly to the government of Shirouma, which is, obviously, the most interested in the question.

United States of Europe Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:55 pm

Credible proof?
Russia has openly and publicly repeatedly expressed the intention to invade Shirouma, for the sole purpose of "living space" (which is declared by Russia itself).
The troops, according to some data, they were already in the process of deployment and movement.
Only the timely intervention of the WAAF has avoided the invasion, while the Security Council has closed its eyes.
What other trials are needed?
The Russian flag should waving on the roof of the Palace of the president Riko Nikanawa to require a serious intervention by the Security Council?
Shirouma and the entire region are in need of justice, act now!

United States of Europe Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:56 pm

New Tarajan wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:But Russia had provoke a war. And Antanares think that provoke a war is an action against the world peace. If Stalin remain at the power we can easily provide that, after a rearm, he would provoke another war.
Russia must pay for the war that had provoke and, if the Security Council doesn't act, I think Antanares should do independently what is necessary to do.
It is not necessary to take independent actions, which would only exacerbate the delicate situation we have now to face.
The best solution is to keep the control of the situation strictly in the hands of the WAAF and the Security Council.
But, more important, I would like to ask for an opinion directly to the government of Shirouma, which is, obviously, the most interested in the question.

We agree with New Tarajan, we will will immediately contact Shirouma.

Great Eurussia Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:18 am

United States of Europe wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:But Russia had provoke a war. And Antanares think that provoke a war is an action against the world peace. If Stalin remain at the power we can easily provide that, after a rearm, he would provoke another war.
Russia must pay for the war that had provoke and, if the Security Council doesn't act, I think Antanares should do independently what is necessary to do.
It is not necessary to take independent actions, which would only exacerbate the delicate situation we have now to face.
The best solution is to keep the control of the situation strictly in the hands of the WAAF and the Security Council.
But, more important, I would like to ask for an opinion directly to the government of Shirouma, which is, obviously, the most interested in the question.
We agree with New Tarajan, we will will immediately contact Shirouma.

Eurussia understands the sentiments of our allies and colleagues here. However, be reminded that the aggrieved party itself, Shirouma, which also holds the Presidency of the World Alliance, and even the lead member of the Security Council, haven't initiated anything so far.

New Tarajan Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:27 am

Great Eurussia wrote:
United States of Europe wrote:
New Tarajan wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:But Russia had provoke a war. And Antanares think that provoke a war is an action against the world peace. If Stalin remain at the power we can easily provide that, after a rearm, he would provoke another war.
Russia must pay for the war that had provoke and, if the Security Council doesn't act, I think Antanares should do independently what is necessary to do.
It is not necessary to take independent actions, which would only exacerbate the delicate situation we have now to face.
The best solution is to keep the control of the situation strictly in the hands of the WAAF and the Security Council.
But, more important, I would like to ask for an opinion directly to the government of Shirouma, which is, obviously, the most interested in the question.
We agree with New Tarajan, we will will immediately contact Shirouma.
Eurussia understands the sentiments of our allies and colleagues here. However, be reminded that the aggrieved party itself, Shirouma, which also holds the Presidency of the World Alliance, and even the lead member of the Security Council, haven't initiated anything so far.

Exactly for this reason, I believe the better way is to ask directly to Shirouma what are its position and intentions.

United States of Europe Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:17 am

So, Stalin is dead, I do not think there are more dangers to Shirouma.
The air and sea blockade can be removed, and the Rapid Deployment Forces may be withdrawn from Shirouma.
The sentences diplomatic and economic sanctions may be withdrawn.
However, it is best to proceed with the construction of an international basis, and keep in constant state of alert the Rapid Deployment Forces, so that they can be made operational in a short time in case of emergency.
In addition, all eer better control an already unstable region.

Furthermore, we would like to know how our allies intend to move, and if necessary to move the WAAF about the Crisis between Greecia and Rebordja one hand, and Schorr and Lonbonia other side.

Imabistan Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:30 am

United States of Europe wrote:So, Stalin is dead, I do not think there are more dangers to Shirouma.
The air and sea blockade can be removed, and the Rapid Deployment Forces may be withdrawn from Shirouma.
The sentences diplomatic and economic sanctions may be withdrawn.
However, it is best to proceed with the construction of an international basis, and keep in constant state of alert the Rapid Deployment Forces, so that they can be made operational in a short time in case of emergency.
In addition, all eer better control an already unstable region.

Furthermore, we would like to know how our allies intend to move, and if necessary to move the WAAF about the Crisis between Greecia and Rebordja one hand, and Schorr and Lonbonia other side.

Just greecia now.

Federation of Antanares Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:54 am

Antanares thinks is the time to intervene against Ultranationalist Russia and Schorr for their unjustified actions against a neutral nation like Greecia. The motivation of the war are secondary respect the damage they done and the people who are dead in this bloody conflict. Also, Ultranationalist Russia threatened Greecia with atomic weapons.
We want the WAAF move now to stop the actions of these rouge nations, crack down their troops and their leader and do what is necessary to prevent any conflict in the region.

Great Eurussia Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:00 am

Eurussia believes that Greecia has all the rights to implement laws of their own and even though slavery is against other nation's policies, it is unjust for Schorr and Russia to impose their will against Greecia, much worst with the use of force.

Hence, Eurussia will support any WAAF initiative on this.

Texania Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:57 am

Texania will take part of any WAAF action against ultra nationalist Russia.I have a feeling he will be stirring up trouble in the future if we don't intervene at all.

New Tarajan Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:20 am

New Tarajan supports an immediate intervention of the WAAF.
We are ready to provide any necessary aid.

Federation of Antanares Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:35 am

Antanares propose a fast operation to block the troops of Ultranationalist Russia and its allies.
The operation would be named "Sleeping Dragon". The main goals of the operation are the stop of their operation in the Greecia and Rebordja territory, find and secure the nuclear bomb and also reject them from the occupied territory.
For the first goal we think a rapid attack with stealth bomber, ships and special forces in their radar bases with a support of a cyber attack to eliminate their communications and their satellites. Without communications their operations can't continue in an optimal way. And is that the moment when WAAF will dislocate troops to reject them from Greecia with the minimum possibility of losses.
At the same time, a set of special forces from our country must enter in Ultranationalist Russia and disarm their nuclear bombs before they can use it. If we are really fast we can stop them now and avoid the continue of this bloody war, save a nations and stop a futile imperialism.

Dromoda Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:01 pm

Federation of Antanares wrote:Yes, Dromoda had a very big army, but also we are an alliance and exist better weapons then ... weapons. An Alliance of nations can use indirect weapons to crack down an entire nations. Economical sanction, embargo, no-fly zone, diplomatic isolation are better solutions.
But we hope Dromoda should not cause other problems. It talks about alternatives, but alternatives can be discuss before the armies are moved. Exist international organisation for this situations. Antanares hope the next time there is a problem between WA's nations, simple the nations involved would call these organisations. Everybody want to prevent disaster like a war.

The Nation of Antares should stop with this argument or there would be consequences. and i don't want our nations in a conflict.

Federation of Antanares Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:42 pm

I don't understand good what do you mean Dromoda. If you talk about the tactic of the preventive strike, It's the only way to calm Ultranationalist Russia. Also, do you want a rogue nations with nuclear bombs? Antanares no.

Dromoda Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:46 pm

Federation of Antanares wrote:I don't understand good what do you mean Dromoda. If you talk about the tactic of the preventive strike, It's the only way to calm Ultranationalist Russia. Also, do you want a rogue nations with nuclear bombs? Antanares no.

it would only escalate the problem.

we must have a good talk with them and bring them to scene. this must be realized trough the work of good Diplomats who are qualified to deal with this issue.

Federation of Antanares Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:49 pm

But we have just tried. We have just invoke a diplomatic solutions but they didn't stop their action. If we want they seat down at a table, we must first eliminated their capacity to do some damage to their neighbors. For these we want an operation that stop their operations and eliminated their atomic potential. No counteroffensive, only a defense operation for Greecia and Rebordja. After, we invite, another time, to talk with us and resolve their problem with the words. But our first goal is to defend innocent.

Dromoda Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:53 pm

Federation of Antanares wrote:But we have just tried. We have just invoke a diplomatic solutions but they didn't stop their action. If we want they seat down at a table, we must first eliminated their capacity to do some damage to their neighbors. For these we want an operation that stop their operations and eliminated their atomic potential. No counteroffensive, only a defense operation for Greecia and Rebordja. After, we invite, another time, to talk with us and resolve their problem with the words. But our first goal is to defend innocent.

nothing wrong with trying again.

Federation of Antanares Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:10 pm

We should send a private missive to Ultranationalist Russia and we wait a response. If they don't respond, we request the permit to intervene.

Great Eurussia Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:08 am

Dromoda wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:But we have just tried. We have just invoke a diplomatic solutions but they didn't stop their action. If we want they seat down at a table, we must first eliminated their capacity to do some damage to their neighbors. For these we want an operation that stop their operations and eliminated their atomic potential. No counteroffensive, only a defense operation for Greecia and Rebordja. After, we invite, another time, to talk with us and resolve their problem with the words. But our first goal is to defend innocent.
nothing wrong with trying again.

Eurussia supports Dromodian move for diplomacy.

Dromoda Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:25 am

Great Eurussia wrote:
Dromoda wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:But we have just tried. We have just invoke a diplomatic solutions but they didn't stop their action. If we want they seat down at a table, we must first eliminated their capacity to do some damage to their neighbors. For these we want an operation that stop their operations and eliminated their atomic potential. No counteroffensive, only a defense operation for Greecia and Rebordja. After, we invite, another time, to talk with us and resolve their problem with the words. But our first goal is to defend innocent.
nothing wrong with trying again.
Eurussia supports Dromoda move for diplomacy.

Texania Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:30 am

Dromoda wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
Dromoda wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:But we have just tried. We have just invoke a diplomatic solutions but they didn't stop their action. If we want they seat down at a table, we must first eliminated their capacity to do some damage to their neighbors. For these we want an operation that stop their operations and eliminated their atomic potential. No counteroffensive, only a defense operation for Greecia and Rebordja. After, we invite, another time, to talk with us and resolve their problem with the words. But our first goal is to defend innocent.
nothing wrong with trying again.
Eurussia supports Dromoda move for diplomacy.

Texania will use diplomacy but if the problem escalates we will use force.We still need to get ultra nationalist russia to give the 500 Former slaves to a country that would treat them fairly.

Ronald Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:35 am

The USS would be a great choice for that, given that we freed the slaves and have already taken most of them in.

Dromoda Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:39 am

Texania wrote:
Dromoda wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
Dromoda wrote:
Federation of Antanares wrote:But we have just tried. We have just invoke a diplomatic solutions but they didn't stop their action. If we want they seat down at a table, we must first eliminated their capacity to do some damage to their neighbors. For these we want an operation that stop their operations and eliminated their atomic potential. No counteroffensive, only a defense operation for Greecia and Rebordja. After, we invite, another time, to talk with us and resolve their problem with the words. But our first goal is to defend innocent.
nothing wrong with trying again.
Eurussia supports Dromoda move for diplomacy.
Texania will use diplomacy but if the problem escalates we will use force.We still need to get ultra nationalist russia to give the 500 Former slaves to a country that would treat them fairly.

we kindly ask if you will send our people back to the motherland.

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